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Donny Baker

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 11:18 am    What will you Oregonians do about this? Reply with quote

House bill proposes nearly 2,000% tax increase on malt beverages
by Emily E. Smith | News Reporter |
PUBLISHED ON 2/17/09 IN News



Media Credit: Tristan Coolen

Behind the bar at Taylor's Bar and Grill, a sign lauds the affordability of a good time: "Beer: now cheaper than gasoline. So don't drive ... drink."

With Oregon legislators' sponsorship of a beer tax increase, the sign's accuracy may be on the line.

The House Bill 2461 proposes a tax increase of 1,900 percent on all beer manufactured or sold in Oregon - an increase that could hit business owners and consumers' wallets hard.

Free from tax hikes for 32 years, Oregon's alcohol excise tax on beer sits at $2.60 per 31-gallon barrel. Oregon legislators sponsoring HB 2461 would like to impose the tax increase on all malt beverage products sold in Oregon. The bill would raise the tax on a barrel of beer from $2.60 to $49.61.

Legislators cite Oregon's high alcohol consumption in 8th graders and high school students as a reason for passing the bill. Underage drinkers consumed an estimated $278 million in sales of alcohol in 2005, which was 15.3 percent of all alcohol sold in Oregon.

Money from the tax increase would fund treatment programs for drug and alcohol addiction. The Oregon Brewers Guild reports that only 5 percent of the current alcohol tax goes toward drug and alcohol programs.

"I'm against it," said Justin Walker, manager of Taylor's on 13th Avenue and Kincaid Street. "With the economy already in the shits, it's going to impact us."

Rep. Ben Cannon (D-Portland) co-sponsors the bill with four other Democrats and his office estimated that consumers would pay a tax of 15 cents per glass, but Oregon brewers disagree.

Jeff Althouse, co-owner of Oakshire Brewing in Eugene, said it would be impossible for producers to cover the tax in full without passing the cost on. Kurt Widmer of Widmer Brothers Brewing estimated that the consumer's tax on a pint would be at least $1.50.

"It's a journalistic fantasy to say that it's 15 cents per bottle," Althouse said, adding that the media coverage of the proposed increase misleads the public to see the tax as a menial sales tax, when the actual excise tax would be paid by industry businesses, as well as consumers.

Jamie Floyd, owner of Ninkasi Brewing in Eugene, said Ninkasi paid $19,000 in taxes last year, and the increase would raise its taxes to $370,000. The tax increase brewers would assume would inevitably be passed on to their distributors, retailers and consumers, he said.

The economic recession already affects Taylor's, especially because its customer base is on a fixed income, Walker said, so the tax increase will only hurt business further.

"It can't be a positive thing for the economy," Walker said. "College kids are still going to do what they do, but (business) is down a little bit; it's not as busy as it was six months or a year ago."

Annette Lee, manager of Rennie's Landing on Kincaid Street and 12th Avenue, could not confirm how the tax might affect her business.

University junior Nick Brooks said the tax increase would affect his ability to buy beer. If consumer prices raised, he would probably buy less beer, and shaking his head he said, "It's ridiculous."

Althouse said the tax would shut down Oakshire Brewing, which produces about 1,100 barrels a year. Ninkasi produced 7,800 barrels last year and while the tax would not put it out of business, Floyd said it would seriously affect the company's ability to pay employees a living wage and benefits.

"We're not getting rich, we're just nice people trying to make a living and make a quality product in Oregon," Althouse said.

"The current system works; the current system makes sense," he said.

Paula Staight, director of the University Health Center, said alcohol is likely due for a tax increase and hopes the money would make a serious difference for alcohol prevention programs and accessible treatment.

"We are sorely in need of free treatment or very low-cost treatment programs," she said. "Alcohol obviously takes a huge toll on the country on productivity, accidents, deaths, abuse and hospitals."

Althouse recommended legislators use more money from the current tax to fund those programs that they say will benefit from the increase and said it is unfair to hold one industry responsible for citizens' addictions to other substances.

"We're paying for methamphetamine recovery," Floyd said, "which doesn't make any sense."

Althouse and Floyd said only seven wineries in the state pay taxes because they are granted so many exemptions, while brewers already pay a number of taxes. The increased excise tax unfairly targets the beer industry, they said.

"Is it class warfare? Yes. It is class warfare to target the beer drinker," Althouse said. "It's irresponsible policy-making in my opinion."

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 11:22 am     Reply with quote

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Legislators cite Oregon's high alcohol consumption in 8th graders and high school students as a reason for passing the bill. Underage drinkers consumed an estimated $278 million in sales of alcohol in 2005, which was 15.3 percent of all alcohol sold in Oregon.


This sounds like a lot of FUD Confused

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 11:49 am     Reply with quote

Hmm, If you do the math, this is an increase of about 19 cents per pint of beer. I don't know where the number 15 comes from. Right now we pay 1 cent per pint, and with this tax it would be 20 cents.

I know a few alcoholics that could use some treatment. I'm in favor.

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 12:01 pm     Reply with quote

what am I going to do?

Underage drinkers consumed an estimated $278 million in sales of alcohol in 2005, which was 15.3 percent of all alcohol sold in Oregon.

I'm going to send hate mail to Tucker.

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 12:12 pm     Reply with quote

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
what am I going to do?

I'm going to send hate mail to Tucker.

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Bwhahahaha!!!

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 1:30 pm    Re: What will you Oregonians do about this? Reply with quote

Donny Baker wrote:

Kurt Widmer of Widmer Brothers Brewing estimated that the consumer's tax on a pint would be at least $1.50.



Hmm, I think Kurt is using new math.

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 1:32 pm     Reply with quote

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Underage drinkers consumed an estimated $278 million in sales of alcohol in 2005


Sounds like someone down in marketing is due for a raise!

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 1:34 pm     Reply with quote

Forrest-
I have not done the math but, The tax hits the brewery, then marked up by the dist, then by the retailer. This adds $25 tax to the price of a keg before it leaves the brewery. once at the distributor about $35 extra per keg to us, and then the additional markup at the bars

just did the math. 20.004 cents per pint to the brewery. mark that up 50% twice and I see an increase of $.45 per pint

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 1:43 pm     Reply with quote

Make more homebrew.

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 1:50 pm     Reply with quote

groundclown wrote:

just did the math. 20.004 cents per pint to the brewery. mark that up 50% twice and I see an increase of $.45 per pint


Income ON tax... Brilliant... I'd like some of them parking meters too.

I agree with Monkee, hate mail to Tucker!

I'm not against increased funding for treatment centers although 2000% sounds excessive.

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 1:57 pm     Reply with quote

Amen Hein!

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 2:41 pm     Reply with quote

Chooch wrote:
Amen Hein!

That's the only thing Canada got right Razz


Chooch, you have to quote Hein before he makes his post disappear.

Diggy, you have to remember that the distributers have to ship and handle all that beer and the tax that comes with it. Its like tickemaster. $7 Convenience fee? WTF I payed online and printed the ticket myself!!!

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 2:49 pm     Reply with quote

The state government has to increase the taxation on beer. Might as well tax the last product produced in the USA.

I think Canada has quite a bit going for it..

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 2:51 pm     Reply with quote

I'd put admission gates at all the boards.

Thats bad, makes me what to dive into my frindge

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PostTue Feb 17, 09 2:52 pm     Reply with quote

1st things 1st - think globally act locally - sorry sam-- the "jig" is up.
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PostTue Feb 17, 09 3:21 pm     Reply with quote

Hein caught.... Ps I agree.


.......................................
lower the drinking age

at 18...

You can vote
you can have sex
you can join the military to fight and perhaps die for your country

But you can't go have a beer?

fucking stupid
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PostTue Feb 17, 09 4:29 pm     Reply with quote

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
what am I going to do?

Underage drinkers consumed an estimated $278 million in sales of alcohol in 2005, which was 15.3 percent of all alcohol sold in Oregon.


Read: Just think of how much tax revenue we could get off of them!

I don't get increasing taxes 20x... maybe if politicians didn't propose stuff like this then the more reasonable tax increases would be met with less skepticism. Like the gas tax that pays for useful things like roads and bridges and hasn't been increased in 16 years, not even to keep up with inflation:

http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?c=45277&a=166548

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