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groundclown

Since 12 May 2007
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PostFri Feb 06, 09 11:19 pm     Reply with quote

FQ monkey fk,
I max out the meters and still get tickets. you must not spend much money down town. It takes a while to buy a quiver of kites, or buy 4 months worth of gear for the road.

There is always around $15 in my ash tray just for those stupid meters. can you not read. The thing that started all this, is the fact that it cost me 2 days hassle, and a few dollars change because their computers don't work.(and I could not remember my old plate#) it shouldn't take 40 minutes to pay my ticket.

I was wondering who the first jackass would be to flame me. too bad it's someone I liked. Flame on monkeyfq. BTW- I Always "pay it forward" read the thread. some one in a f'n Range Rover, without a tag was lucky enough to get my tag yesterday, and 2 others got tags with 18 and 40 minutes left on them today. I put money in other peoples meters quite often. do you have the common courtesy to do the same? I would guess, no.

Haul your kid up and down the street a few times a day while you spend good money at the shops they (they city) are supposed to make sure you can get to. Know what happens when I haul Levi around like that, I get to bleed, over and over. A couple more times today in fact. I spent about $30 down town, today just hanging out with my boy. Paying the meters the whole time. how about yourself. yesterday we ate out at the Gorge grill for lunch in Bingen, after hitting Dog River, Adaptive computers, and the hobby shop. when It comes to spending larger amounts of money, I'm sick of getting fq'd for it.

I'm helping to cure a common problem. Ask some of the shops downtown what they think. you'll find them on my side of the fence. I know because I spent the last two weeks asking the opinions of those shops. they are on my side


Btw- Rei's prices are higher than most things at 2ndwind that I bought. I've spent at least $6000 at Second Wind over the years. windsurfing, kiting, camping, snow... I sold 3 new boards for them this year and one used as I didn't have anything to suit certain customers at my shop. Don't tell me who I hurt. I'm sure I bring them more business than you ever will, and I'm a competitor. the only reason I had to spend so much in the first place is that my house that I left unattended for over a month in Lyle last year while moving to Hood River was robbed. Where do you spend your money?

End rant.
Sorry for the obscenities and name calling. you really pissed me off.

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groundclown

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PostFri Feb 06, 09 11:23 pm     Reply with quote

it turned out there was still 3 un-paid parking tickets on the truck from before I owned it and had to prove when I bought it. Good luck with that ticket. one of my suspension notices were for a ticket I had paid, good thing I had the record. I have had enough of this crap after being in the gorge since '97
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PostFri Feb 06, 09 11:25 pm     Reply with quote

ooopsie. Didn't mean to go off, just seemed like you were bitching cause you got nicked because you didn't plug the meter.

You want to solve the problem? Ban all the fucking cars from main street -- Make the sidewalks bigger and put a planter strip down the middle of main street with dedicated bike path.

Shops will see more visitors, the trees will provide shade and once the people in the city see that it actually works, the planners will be praised (after the endure a shit storm from people that fear change).

Fuck it bro, your heading out on an amazing adventure leave all this petty shit for those who have to park downtown everyday.

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groundclown

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PostFri Feb 06, 09 11:29 pm     Reply with quote

I'm down with that Monkeyboy. my bike has a child carrier. Once again, sorry I flipped out.
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PostFri Feb 06, 09 11:32 pm     Reply with quote

Man, do I need to un-pack my gear. it's all vacuum sealed.

Thanks monkey, I think my heart rate is almost back to normal. I think I had an aneurysm

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PostSat Feb 07, 09 7:45 am     Reply with quote

[quote="pdxmonkeyboy"]ooopsie. Didn't mean to go off, just seemed like you were bitching cause you got nicked because you didn't plug the meter.

You want to solve the problem? Ban all the fucking cars from main street -- Make the sidewalks bigger and put a planter strip down the middle of main street with dedicated bike path.

Shops will see more visitors, the trees will provide shade and once the people in the city see that it actually works, the planners will be praised (after the endure a shit storm from people that fear change).

Fuck it bro, your heading out on an amazing adventure leave all this petty shit for those who have to park downtown everyday.[/quote

not that I give a shit about it but,,
you may want to ask the genius who planned the demise of downtown Eugene
after 20+ yrs. of no street traffic ,they proclaimed that the pedestrian thingy was out because most of the stores had closed and the "people friendly mall" was actually the home of street punks
which of course they profile and ticket the "wrong type of element"
Laughing

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PostSat Feb 07, 09 9:58 am     Reply with quote

Ah, Eugene... the bike-friendly city you get harassed for riding a bike in.

groundclown: join the Elks! Biggest parking lot downtown... Wink

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PostSat Feb 07, 09 11:04 am     Reply with quote

My girlfriend is an Elk. The problem is, I would have to lie under there oath. Otherwise, I would have joined too.
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PostSun Feb 08, 09 6:30 am    Dude I'm in!!!!!! Reply with quote

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PostSun Feb 08, 09 10:53 pm     Reply with quote

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The problem is, I would have to lie under their oath.

Yeah, I thought the question "Are you, or have you ever been a member of the communist party?" was comically dated. You must have voted for Ralph Nader... Wink

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PostMon Feb 09, 09 11:07 am    Is that really a question? Reply with quote

Holy Cow!,

I suppose that we all are part of the communist party due to the fact we are taking billions of dollars and bailing out corrupt financial shenanigans.

I'll bet that question is from the McCarthy Era?


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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostMon Feb 09, 09 11:26 am     Reply with quote

that's really socialism not communism although, technically they are related.

Thoughts of socialism bring up a kind of funny irony that many missed during the elections. If you remember during the election, there was a certain political party running around like rats on a shrinking ship screaming out of one side of their mouth that Obama was a socialist. What was interesting to me is that out of the other side of their mouths, they were shouting for IMMEDIATE bail out of financial sectors. Funny that governments overseeing of financing corporations that supply the public goods and services is the principal tenant of socialism.

Not that people parroting the message of the day think about those sorts of things.

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PostThu Feb 12, 09 12:41 pm     Reply with quote

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
You want to solve the problem? Ban all the fucking cars from main street -- Make the sidewalks bigger and put a planter strip down the middle of main street with dedicated bike path.

Shops will see more visitors, the trees will provide shade and once the people in the city see that it actually works, the planners will be praised (after the endure a shit storm from people that fear change).


Not necessarily monkey. They did this in Eugene a while ago, had the bright idea to close down one of the main roads running through downtown (Willamette if you're wondering). The shops and businesses were one of the main driving forces behind the original idea.

And then they realized they were seeing less traffic, less business and losing business, so they petitioned the city to reopen the street to vehicular traffic.

Now I'm not too familiar with HR but I just thought I'd toss in my two cents.

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blowhard wrote:
not that I give a shit about it but,,
you may want to ask the genius who planned the demise of downtown Eugene
after 20+ yrs. of no street traffic ,they proclaimed that the pedestrian thingy was out because most of the stores had closed and the "people friendly mall" was actually the home of street punks
which of course they profile and ticket the "wrong type of element"
Laughing

Fuck. Beaten like a redheaded stepchild Sad /shakes fist at blowhard

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostThu Feb 12, 09 1:00 pm     Reply with quote

trigger wrote:


Not necessarily monkey. They did this in Eugene a while ago, had the bright idea to close down one of the main roads running through downtown (Willamette if you're wondering). The shops and businesses were one of the main driving forces behind the original idea.

And then they realized they were seeing less traffic, less business and losing business, so they petitioned the city to reopen the street to vehicular traffic.

Now I'm not too familiar with HR but I just thought I'd toss in my two cents.



Well there are exceptions to the rule and not every corridor will do well to funnel foot traffic and spur business but it can be shown that pedestrian only boulevards can do wonders for businesses along them. It seems like this would especially be the case in Hood River that sees allot of tourist traffic. Again, it is more complicated than saying yes or no. But if you and your family came into hood river on a sunny summer afternoon, would you rather drive through town looking out your car window to see if you want to see a store that may be interesting and then try and find a place to park. Or would you rather park your car, stroll down a vegetated pedestrian corridor, soak up the scene on comfortable benches, dilly dally in stores at will, and relax with a nice ice cream cone at the end of the greenway?

Even though I work with a bunch of them, I'm not a planner by any means. However, it does seem like downtown HR could benefit from an east west couplet situation where main street is designated as a pedestrian thoroughfare. You have to kind of admit that it would be a cool place to kick it. The HR sidewalks get pretty damn crowded in the summer time.

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PostFri Feb 13, 09 12:20 am     Reply with quote

The typical euro scene is a central square where vehicles are allowed at off hours

Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

Assuming the fear of "Socialism" kills that concept... there tends to be an attractive, pedestrian friendly space that caters to urgent short term visitor needs (food, beer) along with specialty shops that need the draw of the square. HR already supports this model as it extends the current retail base.

US persons mostly refuse to get out of thier cars so the HR city council would need to consider both overnight visitor incentives (reduce room tax as a function of proximity to downtown ) and to increase walk thru from interstate traffic - which is a near constant source of business.

Since the Port seems determined to ignore it's charter to develop light commercial (gosh, I can't think of a single business that's tried to locate down there...oh, wait, yes I can.. .) maybe the City Council should consider some form of encouragement... (must resist Port of HR bashing)*(umm, wait. They've earned it).

/Biz guy rant off/


Green space development is more less proceeding and it may be that in the end, people *continue* to stop and shop in HR because it's a beautiful place located at the confluence of three rivers, in a geologic wonderland, with people who are here because they love where they are...

I hope so.

-j


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PostFri Feb 13, 09 10:36 am     Reply with quote

I've been going to downtown Eugene for 10 years to work, before and after cars were allowed down Broadway (Willamette's always had cars, at least since I've been here.)

The ped-mall flopped because it wasn't sufficiently policed. Broadway was still hurting after the put the cars back in, for the same reason.

Finally there was a big harrumph from the business owners, including a black woman who was putting up with all sort of obnoxious slurs, and they started policing it a little more seriously. Since then, things have looked better to me (i.e. kids no longer block my way to try and sell me drugs).

Hopefully we'll see the businesses do better as a result, although with Lane Co. unemployment at 9% it'll be tough.

Sorry to be un-PC, but since you brought up the Eugene ped-mall I thought I'd toss in my two cents. Police it a bit and it can work - just ask Boulder CO.

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PostFri Feb 13, 09 10:46 am     Reply with quote

pjc wrote:
I've been going to downtown Eugene for 10 years to work, before and after cars were allowed down Broadway (Willamette's always had cars, at least since I've been here.)

The ped-mall flopped because it wasn't sufficiently policed. Broadway was still hurting after the put the cars back in, for the same reason.

Finally there was a big harrumph from the business owners, including a black woman who was putting up with all sort of obnoxious slurs, and they started policing it a little more seriously. Since then, things have looked better to me (i.e. kids no longer block my way to try and sell me drugs).

Hopefully we'll see the businesses do better as a result, although with Lane Co. unemployment at 9% it'll be tough.

Sorry to be un-PC, but since you brought up the Eugene ped-mall I thought I'd toss in my two cents. Police it a bit and it can work - just ask Boulder CO.


Really just 20 yrs. ahead of the times
most people don't want to get out and walk in past generations,
much more car less minded in todays times
And so true policing is a must
but making it fun place to go is the most important (cool bars) and good places to eat.
which in Poogene has not converged even yet,

The Pearl has it both ways ,you get to show off your fancy ride
and go to the most popular clubs

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