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stringer
Since 31 Jul 2007
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Chucktown
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 Fri Dec 05, 08 4:30 pm lameness |
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so message was in my email from youtube:
| Quote: | Dear stringer8247,
Video Disabled
A copyright owner has claimed it owns some or all of the audio content in your video Stevenson 7/15-7-16 2008. The audio content identified in your video is Blazing Arrow by Blackalicious. We regret to inform you that your video has been blocked from playback due to a music rights issue.
Replace Your Audio with AudioSwap
Don't worry, we have plenty of music available for your use. Please visit our AudioSwap library to learn how you can easily replace the audio in your video with any track from our growing library of fully licensed songs.
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If you think there's been a mistake, or you have other questions, please visit the Copyright Notice page in your account.
Sincerely,
The YouTube Content Identification Team
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Has this ever happened to any of you guys?
It sucks to work on something only to have it taken down.
Its not like I'm making any money off of it!
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wjb
Since 14 Aug 2007
223 Posts
Nor Cal
Stoked
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 5:04 pm |
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They would have to take 80% of the stuff off of youtube if they were worried about copywrited material. May you could repost it with a kick'n track of row,row, row your boat  |
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Moto
Since 03 Sep 2006
2698 Posts
Still a gojo pimp!
Moto Mouth
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 5:09 pm |
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| wjb wrote: | | They would have to take 80% of the stuff off of youtube if they were worried about copywrited material. May you could repost it with a kick'n track of row,row, row your boat |
Yeah I know - just about any music video and most movies are on there in some form or another. Don't know why they singled you out 
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
forever labled as the
retired kiter & motorhead Unicorn Master
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 5:28 pm |
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ooh, I' sorry I reported you when you didn't post pictures from the winch scouting trip. 
Didn't think would actually do anything. |
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Hein
Since 08 Mar 2005
1314 Posts
Possessed
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 5:51 pm |
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If you use something that has been copyrighted, then that is stealing.
It's that simple. Just because 'everyone does it' does not make it right.
Put yourself in the shoes of the author of the music you 'borrowed'.
Maybe if you had asked first, things would have worked out differently.
At least you could have saved yourself some embarrassment when the
owner simply said NO to your request.
People these days have so little respect for the hard work of others.
In my opinion: Stealing is the ultimate in lameness. Consider your
self lucky that they didn't ask to recover damages. |
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Kraemer
Since 24 Apr 2006
1736 Posts
Sky Pilot
Unicorn Captain
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 6:05 pm |
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It's a sore subject with me. I deal with issues like this everyday. It is considered stealing if you don't have permission to use it.
[Especially if you are selling something--which you clearly weren't.]
Too many people are stealing music for marketing purposes and youtube is drawing the line. In producing the 'little fun' video's I have in the past; I am fortunate to have a music library to keep my productions on the "up and up".
Sometimes your client asks you to borrow music-- and you do. Such as the case with the many. It is a huge disappointment to make an awesome video and then be asked by your client to steal the music. We both have a lot to lose.
You can post your stuff on vimeo-- ask me for a music track-- or use something less mainstream to keep it off the radar. Youtube is catching heck right now and going through lawsuit city with regards to Digital Rights Management, or DRM for short.
BTW-- to avoid DRM issues I no longer purchase music through I-tunes. I encourage everyone to do the same and go back to buying the CD from your local music store. You will be able to use it anywhere you'd like ; on any system--as many times as you'd like. (Except for commercial or marketing purposes)
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Mark
Since 20 Jun 2005
3678 Posts
I need my fix because I'm a
Naishaholic
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 6:06 pm |
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Got the same email about one of my videos.
I had bought the cd. Put it on my computer, used part of it in a video that I made. Seems they didn't like that. Its not like someone could take the song off the video and listen to it. It was less than half the song.
Guess I am a lame song thief 
Ps My video was COOL..... they should pay me for making their song seem better by having my video with it
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Moto
Since 03 Sep 2006
2698 Posts
Still a gojo pimp!
Moto Mouth
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 6:07 pm |
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[quote="Kraemer"
BTW-- to avoid DRM issues I no longer purchase music through I-tunes. I encourage everyone to do the same and go back to buying the CD from your local music store. You will be able to use it anywhere you'd like ; on any system--as many times as you'd like. (Except for commercial or marketing purposes)[/quote]
Why would DRM issues increase on I-tunes. You buy the music legitimately - and then if you want to use it anywhere else you can burn a CD. Am I missing something?
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Hein
Since 08 Mar 2005
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 6:29 pm |
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| Mark wrote: | | Ps My video was COOL..... they should pay me for making their song seem better by having my video with it |
How would you feel if they 'borrowed' your video and promoted their song with it?
It's really quite simple. Just ask first. They may say 'OK', 'NO thanks' or ask you to
pay a license fee. And you can feel good about exhibiting the mutual respect that
everyone deserves. |
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stringer
Since 31 Jul 2007
694 Posts
Chucktown
Flying Tomato
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 6:54 pm |
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| Hein wrote: |
How would you feel if they 'borrowed' your video and promoted their song with it?
It's really quite simple. Just ask first. Then if they say NO or ask you to pay a license
fee then you have exhibited the mutual respect that everyone deserves. |
I can respect their rights as an artist, but where do you draw the line?
I'm not trying to promote anything or make any money using the song.
If I buy the album, they are already getting my money.
It doesn't make sense to me to have to pay extra for something that I'm not using to make money.
If I was selling copies or something then I would be willing to pay the artist extra for it.
The way I see it is right now its pretty much the same thing as playing the music for my friends.
Should I have to pay the artist anytime anyone else who hasn't bought the album listens to the music?
Why not shut down used music stores?
They're selling other people's work without paying them directly.
People aren't supposed to be able to download videos from youtube and extract the audio.
Either way, I guess I should at least let the artist know that I'm using the song so that they can monitor it and decide to shut it down if it gets out of hand.
As a photographer, I would at least like to know if my previously distributed work was being used for something.
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Hein
Since 08 Mar 2005
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 7:06 pm |
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| stringer wrote: | | Either way, I guess I should at least let the artist know that I'm using the song so that they can monitor it and decide to shut it down if it gets out of hand. |
You are getting close.
Just ASK FIRST and you'll be golden.
Here's an analogy: You are working on your car and know your neighbor has the tool you
need to finish the job. Do you just go over to his house and get it out of his shop? After all,
you aren't earning money using his tools, right?
Hell no!
You always ASK FIRST |
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mobettah
Since 13 Mar 2007
18 Posts
Pickering, Ontario
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 7:31 pm |
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So how and who do you ask? The distributor? The artist?
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Kraemer
Since 24 Apr 2006
1736 Posts
Sky Pilot
Unicorn Captain
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 7:42 pm |
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Producers will most always be given consideration if you include the band in the credits and/or titles.
Even if you only have them to credit.  |
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pkh
Since 27 Feb 2005
6549 Posts
Couve / Hood
Honored Founder
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 7:56 pm |
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Switch to Vimeo, better quality anyway  |
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
forever labled as the
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 8:06 pm |
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| pkh wrote: | | Switch to Vimeo, better quality anyway |
Word.
I don't see what the rub is either. The artists are getting their songs out there and heard. Its not like its on a TV commercial. WTF, next time you play a song on your jam box at the beach your going to have to ask everyone that doesn't own the CD do get out of ear shot.
Sometimes you get her a song in a video and get jazed on it and want to buy it. Like the nine inch nails song on the Ruben Australia video. I couldn't get enough of it, I just had to go to limewire and DL it.
umm, I mean go to the record store and buy it. |
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Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
4911 Posts
Portland
Unstrapped
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 9:57 pm |
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| stringer wrote: | | Hein wrote: |
How would you feel if they 'borrowed' your video and promoted their song with it?
It's really quite simple. Just ask first. Then if they say NO or ask you to pay a license
fee then you have exhibited the mutual respect that everyone deserves. |
I can respect their rights as an artist, but where do you draw the line?
I'm not trying to promote anything or make any money using the song.
If I buy the album, they are already getting my money.
It doesn't make sense to me to have to pay extra for something that I'm not using to make money.
If I was selling copies or something then I would be willing to pay the artist extra for it.
The way I see it is right now its pretty much the same thing as playing the music for my friends.
Should I have to pay the artist anytime anyone else who hasn't bought the album listens to the music?
Why not shut down used music stores?
They're selling other people's work without paying them directly.
People aren't supposed to be able to download videos from youtube and extract the audio.
Either way, I guess I should at least let the artist know that I'm using the song so that they can monitor it and decide to shut it down if it gets out of hand.
As a photographer, I would at least like to know if my previously distributed work was being used for something. |
You got put yourself in the artist shoes - maybe Blackalicous or the copyright holder hates kiteboarding or all things kite related - for example it could be owned by some French guy who rules on speed racing records or a windsurfer dude who was nearly decapitated by a kiter or some mega-company that spent a ton of money producing Blackalicious and may be concerned your home spun content could influence millions of people not to buy another Blackalicous song ever-again (generally I believe this isn't the case - I liked your selection of They Might Be Giants and bought that song on I-tunes - but this time your video angered me so now I hate all things Blackalicious)
I would guess that forward thinking artists and record companies will come up with an online permissions and fair use agreement - but for now they do need (by law) to protect their copyright or they can lose it.
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Blue
Since 03 Jul 2007
469 Posts
I used to be
Obsessed
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| Fri Dec 05, 08 11:23 pm |
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| Kraemer wrote: | | BTW-- to avoid DRM issues I no longer purchase music through I-tunes. I encourage everyone to do the same and go back to buying the CD from your local music store. You will be able to use it anywhere you'd like ; on any system--as many times as you'd like. (Except for commercial or marketing purposes) |
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Just for my education, why CD would be different than mpegs from iTunes? I always was under the impression that recorded music regardless if profit was involved or not was off limits for public distribution without explicit permission of creators or copyright holders. Being a pro you obviously are dealing with the issue on a daily basis and have better insight into the issue, your take would be greatly appreciated.
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