What Size Chicken Loop?

Scribble · Since 18 Nov 2005 636 Posts NoPo Addicted

Thanks a lot. Believe it or not I am not confused one bit....

Scribble · Since 18 Nov 2005 636 Posts NoPo Addicted

Doh I forgot to pick up a cleat as well so I can do the oneline conversion this weekend. Is there anyone in town that sells them? I bought the chickenloop from Gorge Performance but I don't remember seeing any cleats. ASI still seems to be closed.

thanks

Kataku2k3 · Since 14 Aug 2005 3753 Posts Los Angeles, CA Videographer

Which cleat exactly are you talking about? The main one for your depower, or the little one to lock off your Oneline?

Slidingby · Since 29 Mar 2006 125 Posts Portland, OR Stoked

Had to edit ~ Cool

Slidingby · Since 29 Mar 2006 125 Posts Portland, OR Stoked

Hein · Since 08 Mar 2005 1314 Posts Possessed

I do quite a bit of unhooked riding. Here's a picture of my small pulley bar
which I use with my 7.

The bar is 14.5 inches overall width. The loop is 3.5 x 6 inches.
The distance from the end of the loop to the bar is 13.5 inches.
This is an important dimension because you are essentially doing
a pull up to hook back in. Bringing the bar down to your chin
should allow you to hook back in easily. If that distance is too
short then it will be very hard to hook back in. Ever try doing
a chin up and then keep going until the bar is at your chest?

Considering that you might be trying to hook back in white
water while be yanked upward by your kite and sharks nibbling
at your feet; the loop should be big and easy to find. Being
able to grab just above the loop helps. But that means you'll
be holding the bar with one hand for a split second. If the loop
sticks out rigidly then you'll be able to hook back in with out
taking either hand off the bar. That's much easier when learning
to ride unhooked. If the loop flops around or gets turned then
you're going to have trouble. And dealing with a donkey dick
is even worse. You shouldn't have to fidget with stuff to unhook
and hook-in.

I'm normally on a kite 2 sizes smaller. I think that by itself
is a huge safety factor and eliminates the need for so-called
safety systems and "100%" depower. Looping my kite through
the power zone doesn't generate a debilitating amount of power.
In fact it's a great way to generate some power and kite speed
to get going. Get a small kite up to speed and it develops all
the power you need. (kite power is related to the square of its
velocity.)

I'm not saying you should ride with a pulley bar. But you might
consider as smaller kite. That is the FIRST and most important
step to riding unhooked. Once you unhook you'll begin to realise
what you need to get hooked back in. And you don't want to find
that out while you're over powered on a kite that's too big.

-Hein

blowhard · Since 26 Dec 2005 2027 Posts Windward

I'm glad all those decisions are left up to Logosz,sure loks like a lot of stuff to smack you in the head for just a trim loop.

Keep it simple stupid

Scribble · Since 18 Nov 2005 636 Posts NoPo Addicted

I need the depower cleat. Im upgrading an 03 bar to Oneline and the cleat is old and different.

registered · Since 12 Jul 2005 1319 Posts tsunami Sandbagger

That looks like a 02 bar in the mini vid? Wow I have not seen the hard-line in a while. Slingshot is always inproving thier bars. The little round thingy where the chicken loop hooks to the chicken line on the o4-05 were breaking with high loading turns so they changed it up to the new bigger and harder than ever, to hit you in the face, but adjustable big black plastic chicken loop with the wave granade clam cleat mounted to it. I personally think the new thingy is over the top and have enjoyed the old neoprene cover era loop( 4 line only.The draw back is that it is harder to reload it unless you done riding, thats where the advantage of the big plastic jig comes in.

Kataku2k3 · Since 14 Aug 2005 3753 Posts Los Angeles, CA Videographer

My bad Scribble, I thought about that last night after I posted and forgot you were upgrading... Not sure where the best place locally to get one would be. I normally get all my little bullshit accessories like that at ASI, but if they're still close, just go wherever.

I also agree with you others in that the size, etc. of the old Neoprene covered style was better, BUT if you are running Oneline, you're better off with the new Lock-N-Load over the '05 Machine/Oneline upgrade piece which utilized the factory Clip & Ride. I finally got a new L-N-L for JP the other day and installed it on his '05 17" Oneline bar. Not only does the new one spin more freely, but it's build a lot tougher.

Do what you want... Slingy has the best R&D on this kind of shit!

P. to the S. - Sorry about the year. We filmed that video forever ago which is why I said "like" an '03 bar. I was WRONG! Sad

importracer9 99 · Since 27 Oct 2005 296 Posts Obsessed

yellow end line holders = 2002

kiteboard117 · Since 02 Mar 2005 450 Posts PDX McLovin

i have been riding the new slingshot chickenloop for a while now and it really works well. it cant actually hit you in the face because when you unhook it pulls up against the hole in the bar and gets rigid. if you manage to hit yourself with it then you would have hit yourself in the head with the bar anyways. compared to the old neoprene one its way easier to hook into and to reload. it doesnt seem any more complex than any other compaines loop it just looks kinda crappy. if the shit hit the fan i would rather be on the new one.

nice pulley bar hein. how did you get a 14 inch bar?

Scribble · Since 18 Nov 2005 636 Posts NoPo Addicted

Scribble · Since 18 Nov 2005 636 Posts NoPo Addicted

I am guessing that I can just use the old center line leader that has the swivel on it. This way all 4 lines stay the same length. My oneline is way longer though. Any suggestions on how to measure the length I need to make it so it will be dialed in?

Kataku2k3 · Since 14 Aug 2005 3753 Posts Los Angeles, CA Videographer

You might be able to run the newer ('05-06) rear line leaders with the dual "Oh Shit" handles, if your attachment points on the '03 bar are similar. I'll measure mine tomorrow when I run out my lines to give you an idea on if they'd be any closer.

And as far as setting up your actual Oneline, you have a few different options. First being run it as the kit was intended with Oneline longer than the others, but using the different length factory pigtails that came with the upgrade (for the kite) to compensate. Then the second, newer ('06 SS style), and probably better way is to make all the lines equal (so you'd have to shorten your Oneline), then make a full length pigtail for each of your kites (beginning at the upper leading edge and extending down to wingtip "level")

Again I hope this isn't too complicated in my shitty wording, but if it is I'll draw a little diagram out later.

Scribble · Since 18 Nov 2005 636 Posts NoPo Addicted

I think I have all the lines close to equal at this point. I'm using my old 03 center leader lines and shortening the Oneline. I found a post earlier about unstitching the sleave and sliding it down and resewing it so you can make the line shorter. Seems to be working well. I just need to resew it. I just need to figure out what kind of thread to use for resewing it.

I'm sure I'll have more questions.... :O)

Thanks

Kataku2k3 · Since 14 Aug 2005 3753 Posts Los Angeles, CA Videographer

Yea, that was probably the post that I started about finding the factory SS line length customization kit, eh?

But anyways, that sounds good. I got some thread from Mark at ASI for restitching my lines and it seemed to work well. Don't know exactly what they're made out of though.