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captain crusty
Since 30 Aug 2005
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 Fri Feb 13, 09 5:52 pm Broken Line |
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Hey folks
Here at Skyline and its been goin off!
Problem
Broke a front line on my Manta II 12m
How do I do temp line repair out here for tommorows session?
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kyle.vh
Since 11 Jul 2007
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| Fri Feb 13, 09 6:41 pm |
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strongest rappell knot for climbing is an over hand knot.
hold the two 'tails' so they are pointing the same way. make a loop, insert the tails. tighten...
i'm not sure if that would work for kiting. actually when you rappell the lines are both pulling on the knot from the same direction. so maybe a fisherman's knot would be better....
good luck.
btw i know nothing about this...
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pahskahl
Since 28 Aug 2008
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| Fri Feb 13, 09 10:15 pm |
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An overhand knot won't hold in spectra line. There's only one knot that will, but it'll take too much in line length (about 8-12"), so your other lines would have to be shortened.
I'd talk to Brian and Heather at windzup to get another line.
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pahskahl
Since 28 Aug 2008
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| Fri Feb 13, 09 10:21 pm |
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| OK, and because someone's likely to ask, the only reliable knot to connect two spectra lines together is a double fisherman's. That's what we use when climbing where our life depends on it.
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marina c
Since 03 Apr 2006
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| Sat Feb 14, 09 4:51 am |
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Actually there is a way to repair most spectra line with a handy little tool that most people don't know about.
The method is featured in "Workbench" in the upcoming issue of The Kiteboarder", coming out the first week of March.
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Sol-flyer
Since 21 Mar 2006
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| Sat Feb 14, 09 8:50 am |
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| pahskahl wrote: | | OK, and because someone's likely to ask, the only reliable knot to connect two spectra lines together is a double fisherman's. That's what we use when climbing where our life depends on it. |
I've used the Dbl fisherman's and it worked really good! Luckily I was not to far from the road and could walk out if i had to. But it's a good idea to have knowledge about what to do just in case you get stranded out in the backcountry.
where's the break in your line? if it's near an end just cut the other lines shorter and re-tie the lark's head knot on the ends.
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EdG
Since 19 Dec 2005
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| Sat Feb 14, 09 10:39 am |
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| marina c wrote: | Actually there is a way to repair most spectra line with a handy little tool that most people don't know about.
The method is featured in "Workbench" in the upcoming issue of The Kiteboarder", coming out the first week of March. |
Don't make the guy wait break the news 
Or at least PM him with the info 
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marina c
Since 03 Apr 2006
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| Sat Feb 14, 09 11:09 am |
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ok ok. it's called a micro tool and it can rethread spectra line:-)
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Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
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| Sat Feb 14, 09 12:31 pm |
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| pahskahl wrote: | | OK, and because someone's likely to ask, the only reliable knot to connect two spectra lines together is a double fisherman's. That's what we use when climbing where our life depends on it. |
funny I always tied a double fisherman knot:
http://www.animatedknots.com/doublefishermansrescue/index.php
with on or two more arounds
until I met mr rockstar climbing bro - who uses an overhand knot - lays flatter on rappels
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pahskahl
Since 28 Aug 2008
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| Sat Feb 14, 09 4:24 pm |
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totally true
difference is a rappel is on a rope of kernmantle construction = overhand will hold
kite line = spectra with no sheath = overhand knot slippage = dangerous
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captain crusty
Since 30 Aug 2005
92 Posts
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| Sat Feb 14, 09 8:34 pm |
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thanks for the options and thoughts
got it fixed with a few larks heads and some spare bridle line
rode today waist deep powder blaster with the fix
sun/more wind for tommorow!
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Intrepidquest
Since 09 May 2008
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| Sat Feb 14, 09 10:04 pm |
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Haha! I have put a Reef/Square knot in my bridle line. But I like the double or even triple fisherman's knot.
I also like the larks head with stopper knots. Although you could shorten that down to one lark and stopper.
Btw haven't tested with square knot yet but will change to fisherman's.
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bwd
Since 04 Aug 2007
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| Sun Feb 15, 09 10:12 am |
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I'd use some variation of the "finger-cuff" type splice like with any other hollow spectra.
I have a small tool , maybe a "nano-tool" (??)
made from a single yarn of fiberglass I pulled off the edge of a big laminate.
A drop of superglue holds the line to the end, then you can feed it through the other braid easily.
after burying the line, just snip off the last few mm of the fid/line/glue.
The only trick is, let the glue dry before you start splicing
The mag article will probably have some tricks I haven't thought of,
in a pinch you can go to the source for splicing info:
http://www.samsonrope.com/index.cfm?page=28
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| tool post use -with line tail still glued on, can just snip it off to reuse.... |
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holly
Since 09 Jul 2006
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| Sun Feb 15, 09 6:57 pm |
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| figure 8 that sucker!!!
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bwd
Since 04 Aug 2007
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| Mon Feb 16, 09 10:31 am |
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| Doh. ^And what she said!^
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