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tinyE

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PostWed Mar 18, 09 5:45 pm    travel alert for Mexico Reply with quote

Hey guys,
I just saw a message on CBS news about the increase in Drug Cartel violence in Mexico (Cancun). The state department has issued a travel advisory for the Yucatan Peninsula (mostly Cancun).

I know that [most] of you guys are adults and aren't planning on getting obliterated and walking down the road alone... but, so we don't have to start a thread on how great you were, or how much we miss you, be careful next week!

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Kataku2k3

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PostWed Mar 18, 09 5:50 pm     Reply with quote

Awesome avatar, Brett. What thread was that in again?

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PostWed Mar 18, 09 6:12 pm     Reply with quote

I think CBS got it wrong--again. Nothing like yellow journalism to bump up the ratings. The deal about Cancun is just a normal warning to spring breakers. Some of them will get raped, robbed or beaten. Just as they will in Florida. The Yucatan peninsula doesn't seem to be a drug route to the US, IMHO. Cozumel especially doesn't seem to be a likely trouble spot. There's a military base there and no real reason for the druggies to be there...


Here's the actual text from the State dept website, current as of today:


Travel Alert
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Bureau of Consular Affairs

This information is current as of today, Wed Mar 18 2009 18:59:40 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time).

Mexico

February 20, 2009

This Travel Alert updates security information for U.S. citizens traveling and living in Mexico. It supersedes the Travel Alert for Mexico dated October 15, 2008, and expires on August 20, 2009.

While millions of U.S. citizens safely visit Mexico each year (including thousands who cross the land border every day for study, tourism or business), violence in the country has increased recently. It is imperative that travelers understand the risks of travel to Mexico, how best to avoid dangerous situations, and whom to contact if one becomes a crime victim. Common-sense precautions such as visiting only legitimate business and tourist areas during daylight hours, and avoiding areas where prostitution and drug dealing might occur, can help ensure that travel to Mexico is safe and enjoyable.

Crime and Violence Throughout Mexico

The greatest increase in violence has occurred near the U.S. border. However, U.S. citizens traveling throughout Mexico should exercise caution in unfamiliar areas and be aware of their surroundings at all times. Mexican and foreign bystanders have been injured or killed in violent attacks in cities across the country, demonstrating the heightened risk of violence in public places. In recent years, dozens of U.S. citizens have been kidnapped across Mexico. Many of these cases remain unresolved. U.S. citizens who believe they are being targeted for kidnapping or other crimes should notify Mexican officials and the nearest American consulate or the Embassy as soon as possible, and should consider returning to the United States.

U.S. citizens should make every attempt to travel on main roads during daylight hours, particularly the toll ("cuota") roads, which generally are more secure. Occasionally, the U.S. Embassy and consulates advise their employees as well as private U.S. citizens to avoid certain areas, abstain from driving on certain roads because of dangerous conditions or criminal activity, or recommend driving during daylight hours only. When warranted, U.S. government employees are restricted from traveling to or within parts of Mexico without prior approval from their supervisors. When this happens, the Embassy or the affected consulate will alert the local U.S. citizen Warden network and post the information on their respective websites, indicating the nature of the concern and the expected time period for which the restriction will remain in place. U.S. citizen visitors are encouraged to stay in the well-known tourist areas of the cities. Travelers should leave their itinerary with a friend or family member not traveling with them, avoid traveling alone, and should check with their cellular provider prior to departure to confirm that their cell phone is capable of roaming on GSM or 3G international networks. Do not display expensive-looking jewelry, large amounts of money, or other valuable items.

Violence Along the U.S. - Mexico Border

Mexican drug cartels are engaged in an increasingly violent conflict - both among themselves and with Mexican security services - for control of narcotics trafficking routes along the U.S.-Mexico border. In order to combat violence, the government of Mexico has deployed troops in various parts of the country. U.S. citizens should cooperate fully with official checkpoints when traveling on Mexican highways.

Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades. Large firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico but most recently in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez. During some of these incidents, U.S. citizens have been trapped and temporarily prevented from leaving the area. The U.S. Mission in Mexico currently restricts non-essential travel to the state of Durango and all parts of the state of Coahuila south of Mexican Highways 25 and 22 and the Alamos River for U.S. government employees assigned to Mexico. This restriction was implemented in light of the recent increase in assaults, murders, and kidnappings in those two states. The situation in northern Mexico remains fluid; the location and timing of future armed engagements cannot be predicted.

A number of areas along the border are experiencing rapid growth in the rates of many types of crime. Robberies, homicides, petty thefts, and carjackings have all increased over the last year across Mexico generally, with notable spikes in Tijuana and northern Baja California. Ciudad Juarez, Tijuana and Nogales are among the cities which have recently experienced public shootouts during daylight hours in shopping centers and other public venues. Criminals have followed and harassed U.S. citizens traveling in their vehicles in border areas including Nuevo Laredo, Matamoros, and Tijuana.

The situation in Ciudad Juarez is of special concern. Mexican authorities report that more than 1,800 people have been killed in the city since January 2008. Additionally, this city of 1.6 million people experienced more than 17,000 car thefts and 1,650 carjackings in 2008. U.S. citizens should pay close attention to their surroundings while traveling in Ciudad Juarez, avoid isolated locations during late night and early morning hours, and remain alert to news reports. A recent series of muggings near the U.S. Consulate General in Ciudad Juarez targeted applicants for U.S. visas. Visa and other service seekers visiting the Consulate are encouraged to make arrangements to pay for those services using a non-cash method.

U.S. citizens are urged to be alert to safety and security concerns when visiting the border region. Criminals are armed with a wide array of sophisticated weapons. In some cases, assailants have worn full or partial police or military uniforms and have used vehicles that resemble police vehicles. While most crime victims are Mexican citizens, the uncertain security situation poses serious risks for U.S. citizens as well. U.S. citizen victims of crime in Mexico are urged to contact the consular section of the nearest U.S. consulate or Embassy for advice and assistance. Contact information is provided at the end of this message.

Demonstrations and Large Public Gatherings

Demonstrations occur frequently throughout Mexico and usually are peaceful. However, even demonstrations intended to be peaceful can turn confrontational and escalate to violence unexpectedly. Violent demonstrations have resulted in deaths, including that of an American citizen in Oaxaca in 2006. In 2008, a Mexican Independence Day celebration was the target of a violent attack. During demonstrations or law enforcement operations, U.S. citizens are advised to remain in their homes or hotels, avoid large crowds, and avoid the downtown and surrounding areas. Since the timing and routes of scheduled marches and demonstrations are always subject to change, U.S. citizens should monitor local media sources for new developments and exercise extreme caution while within the vicinity of protests. The Mexican Constitution prohibits political activities by foreigners, and such actions may result in detention and/or deportation. U.S. citizens are therefore advised to avoid participating in demonstrations or other activities that might be deemed political by Mexican authorities. As is always the case in any large gathering, U.S. citizens should remain alert to their surroundings.

Further Information

For more detailed information on staying safe in Mexico, please see the Mexico Country Specific Information at: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html. Information on security and travel to popular tourist destinations is also provided in the publication: "Spring Break in Mexico- Know Before You Go!!" at http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/spring_break_mexico/spring_break_mexico_2812.html For the latest security information, U.S. citizens traveling abroad should regularly monitor the Department's internet web site at http://travel.state.gov where the current Worldwide Caution, Travel Warnings, and Travel Alerts can be found. Up-to-date information on security can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the United States and canada, or, for callers from Mexico, a regular toll line at 001-202-501-4444. These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays). American citizens traveling or residing overseas are encouraged to register with the appropriate U.S. Embassy or Consulate on the State Department's travel registration website at https://travelregistration.state.gov/.

For any emergencies involving U.S. citizens in Mexico, please contact the closest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. The U.S. Embassy is located in Mexico City at Paseo de la Reforma 305, Colonia Cuauhtemoc, telephone from the United States: 011-52-55-5080-2000; telephone within Mexico City: 5080-2000; telephone long distance within Mexico 01-55-5080-2000. You may also contact the Embassy by e-mail at: ccs@usembassy.net.mx. The Embassy's internet address is http://www.usembassy-mexico.gov/.

Consulates:

Ciudad Juarez: Paseo de la Victoria 3650, tel. (52)(656) 227-3000. http://ciudadjuarez.usconsulate.gov.
Guadalajara: Progreso 175, telephone (52)(333) 268-2100. http://guadalajara.usconsulate.gov/.
Hermosillo: Avenida Monterrey 141, telephone (52)(662) 289-3500. http://hermosillo.usconsulate.gov.
Matamoros: Avenida Primera 2002, telephone (52)(868) 812-4402. http://matamoros.usconsulate.gov.
Merida: Calle 60 no. 338 k, telephone (52)(999) 942-5700. http://merida.usconsulate.gov.
Monterrey: Avenida Constitucion 411 Poniente, telephone (52)(818) 047-3100. http://monterrey.usconsulate.gov.
Nogales: Calle San Jose, Nogales, Sonora, telephone (52)(631) 311-8150. http://nogales.usconsulate.gov.
Nuevo Laredo: Calle Allende 3330, col. Jardin, telephone (52)(867) 714-0512. http://nuevolaredo.usconsulate.gov/.
Tijuana: Tapachula 96, telephone (52)(664) 622-7400. http://tijuana.usconsulate.gov/service.html.

Consular Agencies:

Acapulco: Hotel Continental Emporio, Costera Miguel Aleman 121 - local 14, telephone (52)(744) 484-0300 or (52)(744) 469-0556.
Cabo San Lucas: Blvd. Marina local c-4, Plaza Nautica, col. Centro, telephone (52)(624) 143-3566.
Cancún: Plaza Caracol two, second level, no. 320-323, Boulevard Kukulcan, km. 8.5, Zona Hotelera, telephone (52)(998) 883-0272.
Ciudad Acuña: Ocampo # 305, col. Centro, telephone (52)(877) 772-8661
Cozumel: Plaza Villa Mar en el Centro, Plaza Principal, (Parque Juárez between Melgar and 5th ave.) 2nd floor, locales #8 and 9, telephone (52)(987) 872-4574.
Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo: Hotel Fontan, Blvd. Ixtapa, telephone (52)(755) 553-2100.
Mazatlán: Hotel Playa Mazatlán, Playa Gaviotas #202, Zona Dorada, telephone (52)(669) 916-5889.
Oaxaca: Macedonio Alcalá no. 407, interior 20, telephone (52)(951) 514-3054 (52)(951) 516-2853.
Piedras Negras: Abasolo #211, Zona Centro, Piedras Negras, Coah., Tel. (878) 782-5586.
Playa del Carmen: "The Palapa," Calle 1 Sur, between Avenida 15 and Avenida 20, telephone (52)(984) 873-0303.
Puerto Vallarta: Paradise Plaza, Paseo de los Cocoteros #1, Local #4, Interior #17, Nuevo Vallarta, Nayarit, telephone (52)(322) 222-0069.
Reynosa: Calle Monterrey #390, Esq. Sinaloa, Colonia Rodríguez, telephone: (52)(899) 923 - 9331
San Luis Potosí: Edificio "Las Terrazas", Avenida Venustiano Carranza 2076-41, Col. Polanco, telephone: (52)(444) 811-7802/7803.
San Miguel de Allende: Dr. Hernandez Macias #72, telephone (52)(415) 152-2357 or (52)(415) 152-0068.

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tinyE

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PostWed Mar 18, 09 6:25 pm     Reply with quote

yeah, they were saying that Cancun is a major portal for drug trafficing from Mexico and South America into the US.

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tinyE

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PostWed Mar 18, 09 6:25 pm     Reply with quote

Kataku2k3 wrote:
Awesome avatar, Brett. What thread was that in again?


lol, can't remember... i saved it for just the right time.... heh heh

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blowhard

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PostThu Mar 19, 09 6:38 am     Reply with quote

the big hauls that we saw when in the regions dive shops
were the talk of the town
pics showing bales of coke
that floated up on shore after they were dumped from speed boats with the
federales in hot pursuit

and they are paying the locals in coke
so you figure it out
druggies+coke+mexico= Shocked

But I would agree with NAK
nothing out of the ordinary

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Tony

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PostThu Mar 19, 09 7:13 am     Reply with quote

Come on guys....everyone watches the "news" way too much...
Can't you see it's obvious... Rolling Eyes The Economy here sucks...
It's the Government Bro's...It's the government...!!!
They don't want you to leave the country cause they want you
to spend your money here...!!!
Kinda like they don't want you to know the truth
about area 51....

I talk to my familia who lives in El Paso...
They say's it's really not that bad...You just gotta use common sense.

Wink

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Hein

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PostThu Mar 19, 09 7:24 am     Reply with quote

Tony wrote:
Come on guys....everyone watches the "news" way too much...
Can't you see it's obvious... Rolling Eyes The Economy here sucks...
It's the Government Bro's...It's the government...!!!
They don't want you to leave the country cause they want you
to spend your money here...!!!
Kinda like they don't want you to know the truth
about area 51....

I talk to my familia who lives in El Paso...
They say's it's really not that bad...You just gotta use common sense.

Wink


Sounds like a good reason not to let the government get too big.

Oops,

Too late Shocked

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Kodiak

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PostThu Mar 19, 09 7:35 am     Reply with quote

Hein wrote:
Tony wrote:
Come on guys....everyone watches the "news" way too much...
Can't you see it's obvious... Rolling Eyes The Economy here sucks...
It's the Government Bro's...It's the government...!!!
They don't want you to leave the country cause they want you
to spend your money here...!!!
Kinda like they don't want you to know the truth
about area 51....

I talk to my familia who lives in El Paso...
They say's it's really not that bad...You just gotta use common sense.

Wink


Sounds like a good reason not to let the government get too big.

Oops,

Too late Shocked


How did this go from a post asking people to be careful while traveling, to a post on political commentary? Rolling Eyes

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melokitegirl

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PostThu Mar 19, 09 7:58 am     Reply with quote

Agreed. Keep your politics & conspiracy theory to yourself.

Just back from La Ventana 4 days ago. Seemed pretty safe to me. However there was an altercation in the campground between mexi-men (not LV locals) who were drunk & blasting their tunes at 2AM. A gal asked them to turn it down and they argued. She was popped in the face, then kicked as she was on the ground. The federales came & arrested the guy. Rumor has it that he and his pals were passing through and were drug dealers. There was some talk about guns & threats etc., but that could have been fabricated. There is no embelishment of this story from me - just reported what I was told. I think this could have happened in any campground in the USA.

The good news about this is that there is talk of having someone at the campground gate for security & collecting fees. A job for a local mexican family is good relations for us.


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PostThu Mar 19, 09 9:01 am     Reply with quote

If you must travel in that area, bring some white bread and mayonnaise. That way if your captured, you can bribe your way out of just about any situation.


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PostThu Mar 19, 09 9:28 am     Reply with quote

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
If you must travel in that area, bring some white bread and mayonnaise. That way if your captured, you can bribe your way out of just about any situation.


Question Question Question

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Tony

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PostThu Mar 19, 09 9:33 am     Reply with quote

melokitegirl wrote:
Agreed. Keep your politics & conspiracy theory to yourself.

Just back from La Ventana 4 days ago. Seemed pretty safe to me. However there was an altercation in the campground between mexi-men (not LV locals) who were drunk & blasting their tunes at 2AM. A gal asked them to turn it down and they argued. She was popped in the face, then kicked as she was on the ground. The federales came & arrested the guy. Rumor has it that he and his pals were passing through and were drug dealers. There was some talk about guns & threats etc., but that could have been fabricated. There is no embelishment of this story from me - just reported what I was told. I think this could have happened in any campground in the USA.

The good news about this is that there is talk of having someone at the campground gate for security & collecting fees. A job for a local mexican family is good relations for us.


MELo


Hhhmmm, Are we talking about the scruffle that happened on the max near downtown PDX last week....Or the scruffle that happened on the max in gresham last month.... Rolling Eyes

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Stormy

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PostThu Mar 19, 09 2:52 pm     Reply with quote

Must have been two trailer park girls from The Dalles at the Lover Boy concert in the park.

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Oregon Surf Shop Tim

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PostTue Mar 24, 09 2:45 pm     Reply with quote

Stormy wrote:
Must have been two trailer park girls from The Dalles at the Lover Boy concert in the park.


That is FUNNY stuff right there LOL!

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PostWed Mar 25, 09 10:02 am    Seek and you shall find Reply with quote

Look for trouble and you will find it.

If your going to Mexico to Party, then trouble will not be far away.

If your going to Mexico to Surf, then trouble will be along way away.

Here is my favorite quote,

"Bad Roads bring Good People, Good Roads bring Bad People"

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