20 or 23 meter lines

coastercoe · Since 28 Mar 2005 35 Posts redmond

Just looking for opinions.....usually on a 14 or 10 meter kite.....can't see where it would make much difference, but looking to the experts.....

pdxmonkeyboy · Tue Jan 06, 09 3:32 pm

I'd say 21.75

Mark · Tue Jan 06, 09 3:40 pm

As a general rule:

Shorter lines make a quicker response.

Longer lines make more power due to bigger power window.

Kites use to be on 27 m lines. Manufactures have played with lots of different lengths. Some now come with 20m lines as stock.

If you already have a line set, I would just stay with it. Hope that helps. Personally I use 20M lines for everything.
Mark

shymac · Since 20 Jul 2005 919 Posts Home Valley, Wa. Bigfoot

I down with 20m on the snow and powered up conditions. Anything else the stock 23m line sets work fine.

Nice thing about Slingshot kite lines is that there is a kit that can allow you to mod your lines to any distance you want them to be without much hassle.

Check your local dealer for further info and availability or you can check them out on the site.

http://buyslingshotsports.com/s.nl;jsessionid=0a0105501f43fb273d299dbd49d29f27d9c48426fced.e3eSc34OaxmTe34Pa38Ta38Qaxb0?it=A&id=347&sc=45&category=12408

Moto · Since 03 Sep 2006 2698 Posts Still a gojo pimp! Moto Mouth

I posted a similar question a while back - check out the following link:

http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-4759.html&highlight=tricks

pdxmonkeyboy · Tue Jan 06, 09 4:58 pm

shymac, do all the REV's come with 23m lines? DO you think I will tell the diff with 20m lines? After this fall at rooster, I'm thinking of making a 20m set for my 7m rev.

whatchathink?

PS. Thanks a bunch for the warranty repair on my 11M !!!

I swear it was Nak and Mark's fault!!

Kataku2k3 · Since 14 Aug 2005 3754 Posts PDX-LA Videographer

There's actually a pretty big difference with the REVs on 20s. Tucker's had 20m lines on his kites from the beginning, so I've ridden his quite a bit. Not only is the kite faster, but it loses a ton of low end, and a lot of "boostability". Definitely cool if you want a bit more range on a windy day, though if you still ride 23s most of the time, your timing will probably be off.

EDIT: One too many "o's" in loses.

TWIN-FIN · Since 24 May 2006 805 Posts Portland, OR Hot Monkey

I trimmed my line set to 20 meters this fall for the BIG easterly daze.
WOW!!!!!
What a difference it made on the Rev, just like Adam wrote:

shymac · Since 20 Jul 2005 919 Posts Home Valley, Wa. Bigfoot

monkeyboy

Yes, all Rev's come stock with 23M lines. You will totally tell the difference with the 20M lines. Much more control in high wind and your down loop transitions will be as crisp as ever.

The biggest change will be the timing for jumps and landing them.

Have a bar set with 20's for days 30+ and a bar set with 23's+ for anything under. But if your all wake style and unhookin rail grinder then a shorter line set is nice. Its all personal choice when it comes down to it.

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blowhard · Since 26 Dec 2005 2027 Posts Windward

The only advantage of shorter lines I know of is killing the power of the kite
sure it turns faster
and a bigger kite will cushion the gusts to a degree,,

But loosing the ability to jump (waves)
and riding a small kite
that already turns fast.

I've never had a problem with kites not turning fast enough
except with bigger kites

I don't get the need (tried it plenty,yes I have a 20 meter setup in case)
unless I didn't have the correct size kite.(which has been almost never)

I make all my bar setups and use 27 meter lines,
on a 7.0
almost all the time

pdxmonkeyboy · Wed Jan 07, 09 9:34 am

Good info. one thing that seems odd to me is that short lines will lessen the absorbtion of gusts but in really gusty conditions, short lines are the way to go.

On one of the last rooster dawn patrols of the year it was gusting up to 40 something and with my stock rev lines, my kite would get gusted way forward in the window and then lull way back and then SLAM get gusted again.

The only person that was making it work was Jake and Gman and I were agreeing that it was because he had really short lines. seems like the short lines would lessen the movement of the kite a little. No?

blowhard · Since 26 Dec 2005 2027 Posts Windward

I think the size of the kite is what absorbs wind
the whole thing is taco'ing a bit
I took a 14.0 Aero 2
out in a southerly at the Floras (very gusty)
with very short lines, about 15 meters
and was able to ride
fairly well

holly · Since 09 Jul 2006 440 Posts Hood River Obsessed

20 or 23..really doesn't make much difference.. start with 23, then you can cut them if you are unsatisfied... but lets be honest 30m lines are where its at!!!