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hip in white salmon
Since 11 Jul 2007
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 Tue Sep 09, 08 8:39 pm pump gauge question |
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Hey guys,
Jonah tells me my new Eclipse kite works alot better under proper inflation. Does anyone know if I can just buy a guage to attach to my pump that came with this kite?
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
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jahmbi
Since 28 Jul 2005
622 Posts
MORE HUMAN THAN HUMAN
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| Tue Sep 09, 08 11:02 pm Re: pump gauge question |
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| hip in white salmon wrote: | Hey guys,
Jonah tells me my new Eclipse kite works alot better under proper inflation. Does anyone know if I can just buy a guage to attach to my pump that came with this kite? |
..PROPER INFLATION COULD BE REGISTERD BY AMOUNT THE OF TEQUILLA CONSUMED,BONGHITS OR HAVING THE PROPER WEIGHT ON TOP OF YOU OR THE CORRECT MIND SET OF WHO YOU ARE PUMPING ON  TROLL
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jonah
Since 20 Jul 2006
169 Posts
Hood River
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| Wed Sep 10, 08 12:11 am |
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I've found some really high quality (and cheap.. < $10) gauge suppliers online before. Wish I had saved the links. But I can't find any suppliers of the "T" junction part that the gauge screws into.
If anyone knows how to get the T junction, I will re-find the good gauges I found before.
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shredjim
Since 07 Jun 2006
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| Wed Sep 10, 08 10:03 am who needs a gauge? |
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Pump gauges are kind of not necessary! Like I tell my students, forget looking at the gauge which does not work that accurately anyway, just pump it until you can't pump it anymore because the pressure won't let you, and your done!  I see more than 50% of people's kites on the beach without enough air in them.
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jonah
Since 20 Jul 2006
169 Posts
Hood River
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| Wed Sep 10, 08 10:35 am |
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| Quote: | | just pump it until you can't pump it anymore |
I have to strongly disagree with that advice. I used to take this approach on a kite I owned in 2006. I was pumping to 10-11psi to keep the kite as stable as possible in the air (it was known for deforming in high winds, though I'll refrain from brand-bashing and not mention the kite).
Shortly after I started pumping to 10-11psi, the kite had a minor impact with the water and blew the leading edge out. The manufacturer covered it under warranty, but stated that they pump up to a max of 8-9psi.
I also often hear surprisingly experienced kiters suggest that you can just pump up any kite until it makes a "ping" when you flick it with your finger. That also seems like bad advice as kites that I have owned will all ping starting at 6-7psi, but will perform much differently (often better) when inflated as far as 10psi. I think there is a reason that most (if not all) manufacturers specify a PSI in their manuals.
| Quote: | | forget looking at the gauge which does not work that accurately anyway |
I agree that the common kite-industry gauges are not very high quality and you should also use personal judgement and feel the kite as you pump it. But I have had surprisingly good repeatability with my gauges and so far have not had one that seems mis-read. But since you can buy a high quality industrial gauge for $10, I may do that at some point.
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pacifichigh
Since 11 May 2005
1004 Posts
ATX
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| Wed Sep 10, 08 11:22 am |
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Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
4911 Posts
Portland
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
forever labled as the
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| Thu Sep 11, 08 6:45 am |
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| I typically pump my rev to 8 cause I was worried about the explosion on impact thing. Should I be pumping it up a little more? Any advice from the official SS crew would be appreciated.
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Reaper356
Since 10 Dec 2006
781 Posts
Salem / LC Oregon
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| Thu Sep 11, 08 6:59 am |
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My SS gauge needle has started sticking sometimes after like 2 years... and it's a little rusty. 
I think spraying in some silicon lube would help tho.
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blowhard
Since 26 Dec 2005
2027 Posts
Windward
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| Thu Sep 11, 08 7:01 am |
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the steering struts on my rooster 7.0
were coming apart from the flex of not enough air
my choice is to pump the little guys really hard (almost as hard as I can )
and my big dogs a little softer
I would imagine that almost any guage would not stand up to the abuse
of kiting
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tstansbury
Since 06 Jun 2006
649 Posts
Rowena and P.C
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| Thu Sep 11, 08 7:15 am |
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| Inflation pressure differs with the diameter of the blader If anyone tells you to pump all your kites to the same psi it won't work well. Try pumping a large kite like a 17 to 8psi then pump a 5 to 8psi and see how much softer the 5 will be.
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kitezilla
Since 22 Jun 2006
453 Posts
gorge
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| Thu Sep 11, 08 7:27 am |
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| tstansbury wrote: | | Inflation pressure differs with the diameter of the blader If anyone tells you to pump all your kites to the same psi it won't work well. Try pumping a large kite like a 17 to 8psi then pump a 5 to 8psi and see how much softer the 5 will be. |
Bill Hansen explained the above phenomenon best, by noting that the "stiffness" of a "cylinder" is proportional not to its diameter or even the square of its diameter, but to the "Cube" of its diameter.
Look below for the post on women being bad at math, but having known the above stated fact, for years...
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