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eric
Since 13 Jan 2006
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Wed Jan 03, 24 11:27 am Backwinded Winging ? |
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I'd like to practice this over the winter--I think. When one gets pasted downwind with wing on top of you, does the foil typically roll over and pierce your wing/body?
Thanks,
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Wind Slither
Since 04 Mar 2005
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The 503
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Thu Jan 04, 24 12:57 pm |
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I am so spooked to try this but everyone who does it says it's easy.
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eric
Since 13 Jan 2006
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Thu Jan 04, 24 2:53 pm |
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Yes, I hear the same...
I would like to avoid a foil through the wing as much as possible, especially since I run a longer mast. One tip I was given is as you get pitched leeward jam the front foot to bury the nose.
Love to hear from folks who have learned recently.
Eric |
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Kay
Since 11 May 2009
219 Posts
Portland
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Fri Jan 05, 24 3:24 am I’m no expert |
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Hi Eric
Last time I winged and practiced this move I was past the 65-75% success rate of doing backwind riding. So take this advice for what it is. I’m no expert!
I had a similar concern when I first started, that and tangling with the two leashes … so after researching I ended up with a 5’ kaohi double coil leash attached to my calf and a ozone belt with bungee leash attached to my wing. This for the most part creates enough of a distance between the wing and foil. Most falls where I suspected there might be a collision I fully dropped the wing to give it more room to escape flying above my head.
I think it also helps if you’re at a point where you can ride a smaller size wing which doesn’t push you off as violently. I wasn’t there yet and so usually I got tossed in violently, luckily no punctures that way. I do ride a 80L with a 93cm mast so perhaps the physics of my setup make it tough to get the foil to actually become airborne.
I know you’re diligent in learning your moves throughly so best of luck with this one, practice makes better. See you out on the water one of these days.
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DownWindRun
Since 15 Mar 2010
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Vancouver
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Fri Jan 05, 24 4:37 am |
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It seems to take me forever to learn any new move on foil. Spent most of the summer learning to tack and still don’t have heal side goofy locked down. I rode every day there was wind June – mid September.
Started to play around back winding in late August and it is by far the quickest move I have learned wingfoiling and I have not put any new holes in my wings while learning it.
Watch the Kitesurf College videos on riding backwind and also the one on Brief-Backwind Jibe (race jibe). I would recommend learning the Brief-Backwind Jibe first as it gives a fast and easy way to bail out of riding back winded. Amazingly it only took me a couple tries to get the Brief-Backwind Jibe dialed in and after a couple sessions I was riding back winded and even got some back winded 360s. |
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eric
Since 13 Jan 2006
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Fri Jan 05, 24 10:28 am |
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^^^
Great information for me guys. Thanks so much. And yes, I am an athlete of 10,000 hours on new moves. My practice methodology often reminds me of the famous "Again!" scene from Miracle on Ice....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uBZ76jH4xk
Eric |
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Thatspec
Since 17 Mar 2008
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Ptucky
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Sat Jan 13, 24 11:20 pm |
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Been working on it, so far no damage to myself or gear. Like the idea of jamming the nose in if you're gonna crash. I learned the carving backwinded 360 first but that ends up being the easiest and safest escape from the BW-ed position. Just go into it with plenty of speed and come out on a very broad reach. LET that back hand sheet the wing out. Use a wave to keep your speed up initially and/or pump the foil.
I don't see or feel much of a point to LE downward facing when backwinded. Be prepared for lots of re-starts |
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