My New 1 Board Quiver (WaveBandit Performer 4-10)

pauls · Since 20 Jun 2005 564 Posts Northern Portugal Addicted

Thanks Slappy for posting all this info. Now I'm going to have get one of these too try. I'm about 15lbs heavier than you so will see what that does to performance. I have lots of joint pain too the point where soft ride is way more important to me than crisp performance.

toddjb · Since 16 Oct 2007 271 Posts MD Obsessed

That's pretty cool. Certainly peeks my curiosity to try it out.

Do you have to put anything on it for stickage? I notice they make a softboard wax, but I hate dealing with wax...

Slappysan · Since 13 Jun 2012 309 Posts Obsessed

All the Catch Surf / Wave Bandit line require normal surf wax. I wax it up before every session as I find that it sheds the wax more than a traditional surfboard.

scottnorby · Fri Nov 10, 17 8:44 am

Glad to see this post.
Soft board technology has come a long way.
I was working with a team to make the Catch Surf boards back in 2006 and they are a great board but they do have their disadvantages.
No real fins.....no real solid structure and they do eventually warp.
But the experience of riding on a board that is softer is unique. All the advantages you mentioned are true. A softer board is more animate and feels like it is more 'alive'.

We have licensed technology to make boards which are similar in that they feel soft (soft skin stretched over epoxy top and bottom) but our boards can be 100% custom or cut from a CAD file that you provide (or we or a shaper design with you)
True high performance soft boards which are custom and have been tested on the North Shore for well over 10 years now.
Futures fins.
EPS and S glass under the skin.
Rails have an industrial strength softer foam just under the skin.

After riding one it is very hard to go back to an exoskeleton board which can knock you out cold....Kelly Slater said was the closest he was to death in the water when his board knocked him out in France.

Sending this one to James Ropner next week -- hoping to get some good feedback.
The traction on the board is licensed by Surfco of Hawaii. Wax Mat traction.

And yes that is Mike Hynson of the original Endless Summer movie---we are talking to him about making a Hynson model next year.

scottnorby · Sat Nov 11, 17 1:19 pm

On an intersting side note.....the exoskeleton (glass over foam) was invented by Bob Simmons. Any ocean surfer knows of Bob. But does everyone know that he is known to have died to to a blow to his head by his own board?

Robert Wilson Simmons, age 35 -- the "Father of the Modern Surfboard" -- died surfing on September 26, 1954. How he died, exactly is unknown. Greg Noll guessed that Simmons "Got slapped on the head by his own board and that was it."
According to Greg Noll, it wasn't that big a day -- certainly not beyond Simmons' skills. "The irony of it is that it was only a six-or-eight-foot day," wrote Noll. "That's the way it always goes. For the most part, it's not the big waves that get a guy. It's always some quirky thing."

And...
From emergency room data near a popular surf spot.

350 admissions to emergency departments for surf-related accidents were recorded.
65% of surfers injured were experienced surfers and 35% were beginners (44% of whom were injured during a surfing lesson).
59% of accidents occurred when the surfer made contact with his own board.

All this technology and 'fashion' gets in the way of function.

We have our aim set to change all that.

knotwindy · Since 25 Sep 2011 607 Posts Addicted

Link? Prices? Where/how? Question

Justsmile · Since 20 Jul 2009 1527 Posts Not Portland XTreme Poster

The link is in the first post. 149.99 a board for the 4’10”. Only one color left /mint til the end of November then a new shipment of all the colors you will wants arrives in time for Christmas !

scottnorby · Mon Nov 13, 17 10:00 am

sorry.
Not trying to hijack his thread.
Drop me an email at cushsurfboards@gmail.com and I will send you specs.

and www.silencersurfboards.com is our old site.

Slappysan · Since 13 Jun 2012 309 Posts Obsessed

I had the Wave Bandit Performer 4-10 out in 40 knots today and it performed stellar as usual. My worry about the board getting away from me downwind after falls turned out to be fine. It flies a bit easier than my epoxy boards but still catches the water and rests for 2-4 sec between wave troughs.

Also landed flat and hard twice from 15 feet and no sign of buckling still.

Also while anything will stick to your feet in 40 knots I found that the Wave Bandit would stick well enough to allow me to air off of onshore wind waves and land back on the face of the wave. Until now I had always had to air over the wave and land well on the other side.

Slappysan · Since 13 Jun 2012 309 Posts Obsessed

I picked up a Stump 5-0 quad during the black Friday sale for $200. Haven't ridden it yet but I thought I would post the weight.

Performer 4-10 twin clean: 5.6 lbs
Performer 4-10 twin wax+sand: 6.0 lbs
Stump 5-0 quad clean: 8.2 lbs

bwd · Since 04 Aug 2007 385 Posts Obsessed

2# penalty for the extra 2” seems egregious.
Is the outline blown up hugely or something?

Slappysan · Since 13 Jun 2012 309 Posts Obsessed

It's an extra 2" in both dimensions, 2.5 in width actually.

Also double stringer vs. triple stringer.

pauls · Since 20 Jun 2005 564 Posts Northern Portugal Addicted

out of stock on Amazon at the moment. Catch Surf didn't know when they would be back at Amazon. They said they will have new stock in February.
The Rock-It Chub also looks pretty interesting and a similar style.

perfect starter board for kids
4'11" x 20.5" x 2.5" (30.7 liters volume)
core made from recycled EPS foam
twin wood dual stringers & 6oz fiberglass cloth under soft top for enhanced durability
for surfers up to 150lbs

Rock-It seems like a real surf company not just reseller of generic Chinese foamies. They didn't know if anyone has tried kiting with them but were interested in any feedback.

Slappysan · Since 13 Jun 2012 309 Posts Obsessed

I agree that the Rock-it Chub looks like a great shape for kitesurfing but I did an Amazon ask & answer about the weight and "1st Light Products" responded:

Gman · Since 11 Feb 2006 4909 Posts Portland Unstrapped

that stump 5' board was fun on that bend wave!

would think you want something with glass rails once you get it dialed and anything bigger than shoulder high and pitching

also watch out if you are flying delta - they can suck it

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pauls · Since 20 Jun 2005 564 Posts Northern Portugal Addicted

I just weighed Chub 6lb 1oz. Rails are quite sharp and much, much stiffer than i expected. Hopefully get to play with it in a couple of weeks.