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toddjb
Since 16 Oct 2007
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 Tue Aug 25, 15 10:20 am SST Wave Kite bar question... |
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Which size bar are folks using on the 8M?
I know all four of the kites (6/8/10/12) can fly on the 20" bar.
I figured the 6 would be best on the 17" bar,
the 10/12 on the 20" bar,
curious about the 8.... |
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Sella
Since 21 Apr 2007
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| Tue Aug 25, 15 10:40 am |
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I vote for 20". I like the extra 3m line length for the extra throw to get you home if it lightens up. If it's booming you have the 17" bar from your 6M ready to go. You'll ride your larger kites more so if you're buying them all complete you have 1 more fresh 20x23 bar on hand to rotate.
Todd, have you, or anyone, flown the 12m Wave and has insight on turning speed and drift control feedback?? |
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toddjb
Since 16 Oct 2007
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| Tue Aug 25, 15 10:55 am |
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Thanks.
Don't have a 12. Have only flown the 10 in lighter air so far (like it!). Haven't launched the 8 yet. |
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knotwindy
Since 25 Sep 2011
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| Tue Aug 25, 15 12:33 pm |
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| I been riding the 8 on the 20" bar and just once on the 20" barbut with 20m lines and like it better that way. A bit faster response but you do lose a bit in the jumping, even when really powered. And you have to work the kite a bit more on the rally low end but it is plenty fast enough to make it work. I think I will keep using the 20/20 setup for a while on the 8 to see how it goes after some time on it. |
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ulx
Since 21 Nov 2008
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| Tue Aug 25, 15 12:56 pm |
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| knotwindy wrote: | | ... I think I will keep using the 20/20 setup for a while on the 8 to see how it goes after some time on it. |
Yeah, that's my setup, too. It works great with the 8 and 10m. I don't miss the 3m for lowend because the SSTs turn so tight that you still have enough way to travel. Haven't tried the 6m yet but I am pretty sure it's fits there as well. I still have a 17 inch bar but that is only for the 4.5 rpm. |
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Windance Crew
Since 18 Apr 2008
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| Wed Aug 26, 15 8:03 am |
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I prefer the 17" bar on the 8m2 size, but I like the smaller bars generally since they are more compact and feel like a wakeboard handle. '
Plus I find the Wave SST is plenty quick to turn and the 17" gets it done.
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eric
Since 13 Jan 2006
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| Wed Aug 26, 15 9:27 am |
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I'm thinking longer bars do not increase turning speed. Rather, they decrease the effort required to turn the kite due to more leverage and might even slow the kite down a bit as you have to move the bar farther to accomplish the same angle?
Wondering if I'm correct? |
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toddjb
Since 16 Oct 2007
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| Wed Aug 26, 15 11:34 am |
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| eric wrote: | I'm thinking longer bars do not increase turning speed. Rather, they decrease the effort required to turn the kite due to more leverage and might even slow the kite down a bit as you have to move the bar farther to accomplish the same angle?
Wondering if I'm correct? |
Kind of...but that is what makes it increase the turning speed, right? If I have to pull the bar a smaller distance to get the same turn, my turning speed has been increased. Since folks tend to pull the same amount on their 23" bar that they do on their 17" bar, they'll find the kite turns a lot faster!
As a corollary to this, I remember when the the turning speed was slowed on a kite one year, and folks who liked the quick turning of the prior year complained about it... the SS response was, "it still turns fast, it just requires more bar input."  |
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ulx
Since 21 Nov 2008
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| Wed Aug 26, 15 11:49 pm |
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| It obviously has a lot to do with personal preference. I like short lines as its fast from side to side of the window. I like a wide bar because I like to have light one handed steering with my strapless surfboard. |
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