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nickdward
Since 11 Aug 2008
130 Posts
Seattle
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Thu Oct 17, 13 8:36 am |
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Here's some pictures from the 1st board I built ages ago in my parent's garage over college spring break:
Go for it! _________________ "all I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine."
My Blog: http://straplesskitesurf.blogspot.com/ |
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Procktor
Since 11 Apr 2013
46 Posts
Hood River
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Thu Oct 17, 13 8:59 am Re: Dan KAAAAY!! and his Procktologist |
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airon^ wrote: | Lord knows these 2 don't need more attention, they already thrive on it
I mean, we can all agree to disagree, but lets do so civilly, logically. When these basic social norms are not observed, it would be nice to be able to keep the offending person out of the conversation.
Attacks ad hominen have no place here, nor do politics. Hein could be a neonazi for all I know, but what relevance does that have to the topic at hand? If he has offensive political views, Mason is probably smart enough to have his own opinion.
Too bad we can't boot belligerent folks from the forum. |
Dan is just giving the kid a heads up before he ends up having to listen to rush Limbaugh before he can work on his board. Who would send a kid to hand out with a neo nazi? _________________ ''If Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.''' |
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Dan k
Since 31 Mar 2013
87 Posts
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Thu Oct 17, 13 9:10 am Procktor (#2 PNW wave kiter) rules! |
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Procktor wrote: | airon^ wrote: | Lord knows these 2 don't need more attention, they already thrive on it
I mean, we can all agree to disagree, but lets do so civilly, logically. When these basic social norms are not observed, it would be nice to be able to keep the offending person out of the conversation.
Attacks ad hominen have no place here, nor do politics. Hein could be a neonazi for all I know, but what relevance does that have to the topic at hand? If he has offensive political views, Mason is probably smart enough to have his own opinion.
Too bad we can't boot belligerent folks from the forum. |
Dan is just giving the kid a heads up before he ends up having to listen to rush Limbaugh before he can work on his board. Who would send a kid to hand out with a neo nazi? |
I know I wouldn't want my children hanging around such individuals. |
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Jonpnw
Since 22 Jul 2010
1327 Posts
Pacific Northwest
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Thu Oct 17, 13 9:13 am . |
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sorry, lost my cool for a second.
Mason, keep us posted on your board building progress. _________________ Slingshot | Ride Engine |Try before you buy | PM me
Join the Columbia Gorge Water Sports Association. http://gorgewindsurfing.org/ Last edited by Jonpnw on Thu Oct 17, 13 9:21 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Dan k
Since 31 Mar 2013
87 Posts
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Thu Oct 17, 13 9:18 am Look in da mirror |
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Jonpnw wrote: | Way to ruin such a cool thread. Here is a kid in high school stoked on building a kite board and you two f$#kers go and throw this off the deep end.
I hope you run into a wall today. |
only ones goin off the deep end are you and airon. |
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Hein
Since 08 Mar 2005
1313 Posts
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Thu Oct 17, 13 10:05 am |
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Mason,
I was looking around at some software you might be able to use. I tried boardcad (http://www.boardcad.com/news.php) which can export 3D surfaces (in iges format) for downstream applications like CNC. Another option would be Rhino3D because they offer a 20 save trial version. Solidworks is probably the most prolific mechanical CAD software and I believe they offer a student version. The latter two are full blown CAD systems so the learning curve will be steep. But the experience will be worthwhile for an engineer in training. You can shape a board in Sketchup but last I checked it could not export nurbs surfaces so you would not be able to get your design machined.
Good luck,
Hein |
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Mason
Since 15 Oct 2013
16 Posts
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Thu Oct 17, 13 3:27 pm |
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Sorry I took a little while to reply, between high-school/college classes and homework I haven't been checking much for a day or so. I will keep you guys updated, thanks for the posts!
nickdward - Thanks so much for the post! It will be extremely useful for getting me started.
Quote: | To make it easy, I would stick to a blank built for kiteboarding. There are specialty blanks that work better than surfboard blanks. |
I have heard conflicted reports on that. Some people are saying that a surfboard blank would be fine, just use more glass. What are the main differences between the two?
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Don't forget John Doyle, |
I contacted him over a month ago via email, so far no reply. I have also called a few times, no answer. I will keep trying periodically, but reaching him may be difficult.
Quote: | Agreed. If the point of the project is to learn engineering skills, then you might want to focus more on the 3-D design process with the computer. |
The project doesn't necessarily have to be directly related to engineering, I am not even sure if that is the field I would like to go into, I haven't decided yet. I would like to investigate more into using CADs, the project is due in mid December, so I am not sure if I have time to learn how to learn a CAD with my current schedule.
(EA project link: http://www.hoodriver.k12.or.us/domain/106)
Quote: | Mason, keep us posted on your board building progress. |
Will do!
Quote: | Mason,
I was looking around at some software you might be able to use. I tried boardcad (http://www.boardcad.com/news.php) which can export 3D surfaces (in iges format) for downstream applications like CNC. Another option would be Rhino3D because they offer a 20 save trial version. Solidworks is probably the most prolific mechanical CAD software and I believe they offer a student version. The latter two are full blown CAD systems so the learning curve will be steep. But the experience will be worthwhile for an engineer in training. You can shape a board in Sketchup but last I checked it could not export nurbs surfaces so you would not be able to get your design machined.
Good luck,
Hein |
I am not sure if I have the time to learn how to use a CAD to that level, how long would you guess it would take? I could always torrent a CAD if it is easy enough to learn, and if the exporting would be a problem.
Quote: | Dan is just giving the kid a heads up before he ends up having to listen to rush Limbaugh before he can work on his board. Who would send a kid to hand out with a neo nazi? |
Thanks for the warning, as long as he accepts my political views, I would respect his, so that wouldn't be an issue.
Thanks everyone for the posts, there is a ton of useful information in here to get me started. I will keep you guys updated, and hopefully my board ends up working and looking great! |
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Dan k
Since 31 Mar 2013
87 Posts
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Thu Oct 17, 13 4:59 pm |
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Your welcome kid. Have fun! |
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Jonpnw
Since 22 Jul 2010
1327 Posts
Pacific Northwest
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Thu Oct 17, 13 5:38 pm Cool |
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Mason Rules ! _________________ Slingshot | Ride Engine |Try before you buy | PM me
Join the Columbia Gorge Water Sports Association. http://gorgewindsurfing.org/ |
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Anthony
Since 07 Oct 2008
362 Posts
Salem
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Fri Oct 18, 13 7:30 am |
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Mason
Mason
Nickward has a nice fiberglass lay up for his board. Choosing a blank with a kiteboard like rocker line will save you a lot of adjustments when shaping. The less you shave off the bottom the better off you are. You might think about asking around for a defective/ damaged blank from one of local shapers to practice on. I have seen them in there shops. One thing that has not come up here is safety. Wear goggles and face mask to filter fumes. If you can smell it, you are already over the safety limits. You must wear protect gear when glassing (gloves). Epoxy in particular can cause hypersensitivity. Many a good gorge board builder has had to quit the business due to allergenic reactions to epoxy. Most of the home builders have no clue about this. Working with Doug the former owner of fiberglass supply and seeing board builders slowly disappear in the gorge from it gave me a healthy respect for epoxy hypersensitivity. You can easily work with epoxy, just stay protected. Now this project is not just about building a board it is about learning a process to manufacture a product safely and that is what some engineers do.
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jeremy
Since 18 Aug 2006
274 Posts
Manzo & HR
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Fri Oct 18, 13 8:34 am what about starting with an old windsurf board |
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I wonder if those old Windsurf boards I see the CGWA basically giving away can be cut down into a new kiteboard ?? The last swap meet there was a pile of them for free. There must be hundreds of old unwanted boards in town. |
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Mason
Since 15 Oct 2013
16 Posts
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Fri Oct 18, 13 8:39 am |
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I decided to go with polyester resin and catalyst over epoxy due to it being significantly cheaper. Thanks for the safety tips! |
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kitebot
Since 20 Feb 2007
251 Posts
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Fri Oct 18, 13 1:25 pm |
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Mason wrote: | I decided to go with polyester resin and catalyst over epoxy due to it being significantly cheaper. Thanks for the safety tips! |
Back in the 90s I shaped a surfboard in my garage after watching these videos on VHS:
Shaping:
[youtube]http://youtu.be/2CLvCow6Rjg[/youtube]
Glassing:
[youtube]http://youtu.be/ozsjvQ3G5C0[/youtube]
I haven't watched it since, but I expect it's mostly relevant, though you'd want thicker glass and fin inserts as per Nick. Good luck |
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stringy
Since 23 Jun 2006
1731 Posts
vancouver
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Fri Oct 18, 13 6:05 pm |
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Anthony wrote: | Now this project is not just about building a board it is about learning a process to manufacture a product safely and that is what some engineers do.
Anthony |
that is great advice.
good luck mason with your project. _________________ www.jimstringfellow.com |
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Hein
Since 08 Mar 2005
1313 Posts
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sfbomber
Since 27 Jun 2012
113 Posts
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Wed Oct 23, 13 7:17 am |
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+1 on boardcad. Akushaper is good too though may not still be free. Shape3D lite is cool too.
Check out the grainsurf forum for a wealth of information and inspiration:
http://www.grainsurf.com/forum/ |
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
1417 Posts
Hood River
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Wed Oct 23, 13 11:45 am |
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I'm no engineer, but I know in order to be one your most likely going to want to know CAD or some sort of 3d modeling software, especially if you are going to be building things. Believe me, start learning now, if your interested in that kind of stuff, it will be really fun to learn as well. _________________ I heart dangling |
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