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moondog
Since 15 Aug 2007
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white salmon
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 Tue Jun 19, 12 8:33 pm HR sandbar or lack of |
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We need a revolution in the streets of Hood River and White Salmon and anywhere else you are in the mood, to win back the GRASS!!!! There were 40 kiters trying to make 30 square feet of sandbar launchable today. I counted 4 windsurfers and using 1000 sq. ft of event site grass. It was actually dangerous trying to get our kites to the sandbar with 6 knots of Hood river flowing between the grass and the sandbar. We actually had a group of kiters betting to see who could swim to the sandbar without being swept away in the current. The Port needs to be proactive with the water level not ridiculous dates that mean nothing!
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argos
Since 07 Apr 2010
66 Posts
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| Tue Jun 19, 12 9:24 pm |
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AGREED!!!
That was ridiculous! |
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
Hick
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| Tue Jun 19, 12 10:02 pm |
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Boys, we put out a call for Board Members of the CGKA. Next time we do, you're both prime candidates. Usually happens in January.
Obviously the process we've adopted needs to be a bit more agile. We're basing our decisions on the NOAA Northwest River Forecasts.
http://www.nwrfc.noaa.gov/stp/station/stpplot/stpplot.cgi?TDAO3 |
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hilton
Since 15 Aug 2008
803 Posts
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 7:46 am |
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Based on the latest forecast, it looks like the current high water (or higher) could stick around through the first week of July.
The Port needs to re-evaluate their decisions and extend the grass launching deadline at least through June 30 (Naish demo day). |
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Ryan
Since 14 Jul 2005
537 Posts
Oregon
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 8:02 am The marina |
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I have been launching from the Marina, nice grass to pump and dry, parking right at the grass and no crowds. 
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ldhr
Since 21 Jul 2009
1489 Posts
Hood River
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 8:29 am |
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If everyone switched from the ES to the Marina, then we would have crowding at the marina.
Last year we used the grass launch until July 23.
I'm not aware of any negative issues from last year so I'm surprised at this year's restriction.
However, I appreciate the work by CGKA and I'm confident that everything possible is being done.
Instead of basing the restrictions on a forecast, why not base it on reality?
If there's no sandbar - ok launch from the grass regardless of the date.
If there's X amount of sandbar showing - no launching from the grass. |
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caps
Since 23 Dec 2010
347 Posts
Obsessed
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 8:55 am |
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I think reason is being trumped by tradition.
Over time, more and more grass should be gained. Constant, persistent, respectful pressure should prevail. There should be some benefit for paying to park there. |
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
1417 Posts
Hood River
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 9:38 am |
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Dont worry, everybody still windsurfing will be dead in less than 10 years anyways!
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DVS
Since 02 Mar 2009
69 Posts
Mt Hood
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 9:39 am |
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About the marina, I thought the rules there were only launching and landing at the end of the sandbar. Which is currently under water.  |
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cgka
Since 18 Jul 2006
278 Posts
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 9:57 am |
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| DVS wrote: | | About the marina, I thought the rules there were only launching and landing at the end of the sandbar. Which is currently under water. |
When the water is high, kiters have access to most of the beach as needed for safe launching and landing at the Marina Beach, BUT! when there are beach users/sunbathers, kiteboarders must ALWAYS either launch downwind of these users, or at a safe enough distance.
Pretty much the scenario at the Marina is, during high water and windy, it is typically too cold to swim and too windy to sunbath, so pretty cool scenario.
As for Moondogs revolution, if you really want to make a difference and not do something utterly and completely stupid against the local kite community, please follow the rules that we set up WITH the Port of Hood River.
If you really, truly, and meaningfully want to make a revolution, then join the CGKA or volunteer your time as an advocate for the kite community speaking to the local property owners as a valid and intelligent representative for kiteboarding.
Breaking the rules that the kiteboard community agreed upon with the Port of Hood River makes you stupid (or illiterate) and make the local kite community look like a bunch of assholes that don't appreciate the fact that we have almost twice as much launch and landing areas as the windsurfers and absolutely not parking fees at our full launch access locations.
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mitchl3000
Since 19 Jul 2010
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 10:02 am |
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| ldhr wrote: | If everyone switched from the ES to the Marina, then we would have crowding at the marina.
Last year we used the grass launch until July 23.
I'm not aware of any negative issues from last year so I'm surprised at this year's restriction.
However, I appreciate the work by CGKA and I'm confident that everything possible is being done.
Instead of basing the restrictions on a forecast, why not base it on reality?
If there's no sandbar - ok launch from the grass regardless of the date.
If there's X amount of sandbar showing - no launching from the grass. |
this is not logic. logic is that windsurfers owwwn the river, and therefore all the good places to launch. havent you seen the windsurfers out there KILLIN IT! i dont know why were all bitchin. im gonna start launching from the bridge and jumping down so i dont get in the way of windsurfers who are launching there giant and dangerous rigs from the nice grass. |
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Sella
Since 21 Apr 2007
1794 Posts
Doin' The Dalles
FLY'IN HIGH PIE GUY
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 12:08 pm |
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| CGKA wrote: | | DVS wrote: | | About the marina, I thought the rules there were only launching and landing at the end of the sandbar. Which is currently under water. |
When the water is high, kiters have access to most of the beach as needed for safe launching and landing at the Marina Beach, BUT! when there are beach users/sunbathers, kiteboarders must ALWAYS either launch downwind of these users, or at a safe enough distance.
Pretty much the scenario at the Marina is, during high water and windy, it is typically too cold to swim and too windy to sunbath, so pretty cool scenario.
As for Moondogs revolution, if you really want to make a difference and not do something utterly and completely stupid against the local kite community, please follow the rules that we set up WITH the Port of Hood River.
If you really, truly, and meaningfully want to make a revolution, then join the CGKA or volunteer your time as an advocate for the kite community speaking to the local property owners as a valid and intelligent representative for kiteboarding.
Breaking the rules that the kiteboard community agreed upon with the Port of Hood River makes you stupid (or illiterate) and make the local kite community look like a bunch of assholes that don't appreciate the fact that we have almost twice as much launch and landing areas as the windsurfers and absolutely not parking fees at our full launch access locations. |
When is the next CGKA meeting? Is it still every 2nd Friday of the month in Hood? People want to get involved but communication is non-existent so calling people stupid or illiterate assholes for attempting to bring a definite problem to light is lame. The nwkite CGKA section hasn't been updated for over a year and the 7 members of the Facebook CGKA is sad while first page still talks about Bingen expansion from 2010. (Wtf?) That page could be a solid OSR tool etc and absolutely bring more kiting brothers and sisters together.
Yes we have the Marina or Spit for now and that's cool but the Event Site and Sandbar go well together for non-kiting family members so looking for open discussion with the Port regarding what can, or cannot happen, when the water forecast doesn't match up seems reasonable. At least something to work on for 2013 planning so I'm in...just need to know when and where. Gracias. |
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shred_da_gorge
Since 12 Nov 2008
1342 Posts
Da Hood & Da Wood
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 1:37 pm |
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| Inept_Fun wrote: | | Dont worry, everybody still windsurfing will be dead in less than 10 years anyways! |
I'm thinking about switching back - better than dealing with kite crowds. The growth of the sport is creating the same problem everywhere; similar threads are on about conditions at 3rd Ave. Poleboarding = more launch options.
Flame away! |
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hilton
Since 15 Aug 2008
803 Posts
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 5:12 pm |
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Currently the windsurfers use 30% of the grass on the west end for rigging and launching. The kiteboarders get 20% of the grass on the east end for pumping and drying. The geese (and dogs) get the other 50% of the grass for pooping.
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
Hick
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 10:16 pm |
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| CGKA Meeting: Thursday, June 21st, 7pm, HR News office, See you there! |
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Sella
Since 21 Apr 2007
1794 Posts
Doin' The Dalles
FLY'IN HIGH PIE GUY
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| Wed Jun 20, 12 10:42 pm |
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| Forrest wrote: | | CGKA Meeting: Thursday, June 21st, 7pm, HR News office, See you there! |
Coolio. Thanks Forrest. |
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