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Occupied Columbia
Since 12 Nov 2011
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 Sun Jun 03, 12 5:15 am 2011 rpm rigging |
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| Hey I know a lot of you ride RPMs. I was wondering what is the best rigging to get the most upwind out of a 2011 RPM 12m. I was out yesterday in marginal wind. I could stay in one spot, but not get upwind on my 140 Cabrinha custom. I know a surfboard would have done the trick. But, as far as rigging to get just that little bit more? Freestyle vs. wakestyle and does the bar pressure setting make a difference for upwind? Thanks. |
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mitchl3000
Since 19 Jul 2010
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| Sun Jun 03, 12 9:51 am |
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| the freestyle setting gets upwind easier. you can just sheet out a little bit and it will pull to the edge of the window. the wake style setting is going to sit back in the window a little more. it will take more speed and hard edging to go upwind as quickly as you would with the freestlye setting.... this being said i consider the rpm to have pretty good upwind ability on either setting. |
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
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Hood River
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| Sun Jun 03, 12 9:51 am |
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What settings do you have it on now. Have you riden the custom before? Some people on kitescoop have trouble making the transition to the custom from a traditional kiteboard because of the rocker that it has. May just need to work on your technique with the board a little bit. Also when riding a rockered board, if you are even a little bit underpowered going upwind is that much harder.
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OG
Since 07 Jun 2011
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| Sun Jun 03, 12 10:43 am |
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| i have a custom, i'd second what inept says. if you are newer to the sport, a prodigy/spectrum (they changed the name of the board this year i think, same board) will be a very fun board that is better for developing technique. Dont get rid of your custom though, they are super fun |
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Occupied Columbia
Since 12 Nov 2011
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Columbia City
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| Sun Jun 03, 12 6:38 pm Thanks Guys |
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I changed the settings to freestyle and sheeted out slightly. Seemed to work better, but had more wind today as we went to Hood River. I'll try on light wind day. I know I would be better off for upwind on another board, but I love that custom and I love that RPM. So I just need to make them work better together for me. Technique is key, I just wanted to start off with the right settings. Thanks  |
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OG
Since 07 Jun 2011
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| Sun Jun 03, 12 8:12 pm Re: Thanks Guys |
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| Occupied Columbia wrote: | | I changed the settings to freestyle and sheeted out slightly. Seemed to work better, but had more wind today as we went to Hood River. I'll try on light wind day. I know I would be better off for upwind on another board, but I love that custom and I love that RPM. So I just need to make them work better together for me. Technique is key, I just wanted to start off with the right settings. Thanks |
you have the right attitude and will figure it out. gear helps, but time on the water is the panty dropper |
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ldhr
Since 21 Jul 2009
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| Mon Jun 04, 12 7:41 am |
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The design and shape if the 12m RPM is not efficient when under powered. It likes lot's of wind. To get the most from your RPM in light winds use the Freestyle attachment. Also, attach you front/center lines on the 1st knot and attach the outside lines on the 3rd knot. The first knot is the one on the end of the line, furthest away from the kite.
This season I switcehd from a 12 rpm to 12 Rally. The Rally pulls harder and goes upwind much better in marginal wind. It also de-powers better than the RPM and is just as good if not better when over-powered.
Still loving my RPMs in the 4.5 - 8 range, but finding the Rally to perform better in the bigger sizes and lighter winds. |
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mitchl3000
Since 19 Jul 2010
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| Mon Jun 04, 12 11:50 am |
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| ldhr wrote: | Also, attach you front/center lines on the 1st knot and attach the outside lines on the 3rd knot. The first knot is the one on the end of the line, furthest away from the kite.
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doing this will shorten your back lines which will "power"(like using the trim strap) up your kite, but it will also make it easier to oversheet and drop your kite out of the sky. So keep this in mind when kiting in light wind. I prefer to keep the line lengths even by ataching them all to the 1st (farthest from your kite) knot in very light winds. |
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ldhr
Since 21 Jul 2009
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| Mon Jun 04, 12 4:11 pm |
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| mitchl3000 wrote: | | ldhr wrote: | Also, attach you front/center lines on the 1st knot and attach the outside lines on the 3rd knot. The first knot is the one on the end of the line, furthest away from the kite.
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doing this will shorten your back lines which will "power"(like using the trim strap) up your kite, but it will also make it easier to oversheet and drop your kite out of the sky. |
That's never happened to me on the RPMs, that's why I recommend shortening the back lines if you think the amount of wind is marginal.
Results may vary according to each user. |
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
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Hood River
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| Mon Jun 04, 12 10:40 pm |
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| mitchl3000 wrote: | | ldhr wrote: | Also, attach you front/center lines on the 1st knot and attach the outside lines on the 3rd knot. The first knot is the one on the end of the line, furthest away from the kite.
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doing this will shorten your back lines which will "power"(like using the trim strap) up your kite, but it will also make it easier to oversheet and drop your kite out of the sky. So keep this in mind when kiting in light wind. I prefer to keep the line lengths even by ataching them all to the 1st (farthest from your kite) knot in very light winds. |
I always attach my center lines on the knot closest to the kite, and my outside lines to the knot furthest from the kite... I think this is the best way to fly the RPMs from personal experience. Just get your board speed up more before turning upwind! That is the real key to riding underpowered on a rockered board!
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MarkWorth
Since 02 May 2011
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| Tue Jun 05, 12 8:01 am |
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Love that Cabrinha custom.
The custom is extremely forgiving when over powered because the narrow width and extra rocker allow you to dig in deep.
You can pull out toe side landings that are big crashes on a wider flatter board because the toe side rail is under your toes and bites in if you are falling over on toe side.
Rolling from heal to toe and back to heal side on the waves is a dream because it goes edge to edge without hesitation.
The down side is that it rides deep in the water and does not have a clean release of the water at the trailing edge. This means you need extra power. 1 kite size up over a wider, flatter, twin tip and 2 sizes over a surf board shape.
You should consider another board for the days you need to go up wind without power.
Skim board, a fish, or a directional offer diversity and keep you smiling on the days you need efficiency
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Justsmile
Since 20 Jul 2009
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Not Portland
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| Tue Jun 05, 12 6:34 pm |
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I fly RPM's and have not played much with the settings. If wind is solid ie not on the marginal side will you fly the kite on the first knots across the board.
The funny thing about the thread is that I have a custom 140 and have wondered about going up wind with it. I have seen many other boards appear to work better but in the swell the custom is awesome. I feel like it just carves well for a twin tip.
Why does moving the kite to the freestyle setting help it get upwind. IS it due to the boards design . It would seem to me that if on the freestyle setting it would sit back in the window thus not going upwind as well. I am probably confused!
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| ldhr wrote: | | mitchl3000 wrote: | | ldhr wrote: | Also, attach you front/center lines on the 1st knot and attach the outside lines on the 3rd knot. The first knot is the one on the end of the line, furthest away from the kite.
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doing this will shorten your back lines which will "power"(like using the trim strap) up your kite, but it will also make it easier to oversheet and drop your kite out of the sky. |
That's never happened to me on the RPMs, that's why I recommend shortening the back lines if you think the amount of wind is marginal.
Results may vary according to each user. |
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
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Hood River
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| Tue Jun 05, 12 7:29 pm |
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| KMG-365 wrote: | I fly RPM's and have not played much with the settings. If wind is solid ie not on the marginal side will you fly the kite on the first knots across the board.
The funny thing about the thread is that I have a custom 140 and have wondered about going up wind with it. I have seen many other boards appear to work better but in the swell the custom is awesome. I feel like it just carves well for a twin tip.
Why does moving the kite to the freestyle setting help it get upwind. IS it due to the boards design . It would seem to me that if on the freestyle setting it would sit back in the window thus not going upwind as well. I am probably confused!
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As far as I remember there are three settings on the kite, surf, freestyle, and wake. The surf settings make it sit furthest to the edge, freestyle less, and wake sits way back, thats why I like the RPMs because they do sit back in the window which is nice for me!
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