WAINMAN KITE QUESTION

mlwahler · Since 28 Dec 2007 174 Posts Stoked

i currently fly 2011 LF envys, could i use a cpr bar on a wainman kite (big MAMA) and vica versa could i use the wainman bar on a envy, thinking about buying either a new 15m envy or a 15m big mama , any input or advice apprecaited....currently i have a 7,9,12m envys, not sure if for my light wind kite to go with envy or wainman,

Chooch · Wed Aug 03, 11 3:27 pm

You can make do with the Envy bar, not 100% sure about the safety system (should work fine). Only problem is that LF bars have a mile of throw for depower, that Wainman bar has much shorter throw, if you use the stopper ball on the LF bar and set it down it should work fine.

PA · Since 15 May 2010 14 Posts

Should be no problem to fly the Wainman kites with the LF bar ( really pretty much any 4 line bar set up will work with these kites ) , not sure about the other way around however. Rabbits seem to require less bar travel than many to reach that 90% depower range and the Wainman bars are set up that way..a short throw..... the Envy seems to require a longer throw to reach that same depower so with a Rabbit bar and LF kite you may want to consider using the mini 5th line to flag a front line safety ... next to weigh in... Envy riders...

Pepi · Wed Aug 03, 11 4:09 pm

Chooch is spot on with his recommendations.

We flew the Wainmans a bit when were checking them out to possibly bring into the shop.
The Wainman is a flatter kite therefore giving it a shorter bar throw than the more arched Envy that uses pulleys in the bridle for depower range.
Using the stopper ball is a wise thing as the Wainmans will not really need/ like being given that much depower.

tekko · Since 20 Feb 2006 376 Posts White Salmon Liquid Force

The LF CPR bar will work on any 4 line kite that is tuned for all 4 lines being equal length, when the bar is at full power (sheeted to CL at bar, no depower pulled in)

I have a 2011 LF Envy 15m ltd (black colorway) that you can demo if you'd like. PM me for contact and we'll hook it up. This kite is likely also available for sale, if you fall in love and are interested... but definitely get it out for a demo!