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windobsessed

Since 07 Aug 2008
120 Posts
Vancouver
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Sat Nov 20, 10 12:02 pm Underwater Kiteboarding to generate electricity... |
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This is pretty cool: http://www.minesto.com/  |
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fredf
Since 10 Jan 2009
80 Posts
Eugene. Or
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Sat Nov 20, 10 1:06 pm |
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When these get built the new underwater adrenaline sport will be to tag on to the "kite" and go with it. |
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pkh

Since 27 Feb 2005
6549 Posts
Couve / Hood
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Sat Nov 20, 10 1:17 pm |
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Great idea!  |
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sixo

Since 25 Jun 2007
36 Posts
west side
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Sat Nov 20, 10 2:08 pm |
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way cool may I have another |
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Freebird

Since 14 Nov 2010
7 Posts
C.Coast
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Sat Nov 20, 10 3:57 pm |
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Yeah, the wave energy buoy they had off of Newport worked great...... Until it SANK.
Putting expensive shit in the ocean and relying on it for electricity is STUPID STUPID STUPID. Liek they said, moving water has 800 times the energy of moving air. Steel bends, cables break and carbon fiber cracks under those stresses.
What happens when a series of massive storms hit and knocks out the grid. Not as easy to lay power lines in the ocean as it is on land. Putting tens of thousands of these stupid things in a delicate ecosystem will have profound effects on it. Haven't humans shat on the ocean enough as it is.
But I'm sure someone will get rich off this scheme, so it will proceed as planned. I'm sure they will make sure no marine life gets harmed, just like BP did. |
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Aeolus

Since 20 Apr 2010
354 Posts
Gold Beach, OR
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Sat Nov 20, 10 5:33 pm |
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Nice concept...... though it might be tough to get over the flotsam issue .....a wad of bull whip kelp drifting through a field of those power kites would be interesting...I want to be on the maintenance crew for that project.... This post just reminds me how awesome kite power is......so many cool ideas taking shape around the kite concept.... |
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PDXF
Since 10 Sep 2008
116 Posts
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Sat Nov 20, 10 9:44 pm |
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For the impeller size the single 'turbine' occupies a massive area. Seems like a great idea, to get a grant to research a new method of power generation only to find that the watt/meter density isn't even close to what the grant paper indicated. I want the guy who wrote the grant to come work for me, I have some real good ideas. |
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sirmichaelo

Since 26 Mar 2010
353 Posts
Maui
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Sun Nov 21, 10 2:19 am |
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Here's a link to a more realistic approach to ocean energy:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/environment/2010-02-16-wave-energy_N.htm
The ocean is literally a constant stream of energy. We all surf. We know this.
It's all about finding the right way to harness it. The link above is all Oregon-based.
By the way, I say 'realistic' but I know how bad the ocean has spanked my ass around and it would certainly do the same to expensive equipment.
"It's like trying to get milk from a bull." _________________ --------------------------------
Life is too short for second chances, although we do get many of them. |
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kitezilla

Since 22 Jun 2006
453 Posts
gorge
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Sun Nov 21, 10 5:20 am |
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The little fish get chopped up or stunned by the blades...the bigger fish come there for the free lunch...the long-line fishermen come there for the bigger fish...the kiters come there, as employees, drawing on their experience... to untangle the lines...finally, the on-the-job experience of kiting pays off! |
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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
Hick
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Sun Nov 21, 10 10:21 am |
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You guys sound like a bunch of oil loving republicans. |
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shred_da_gorge
Since 12 Nov 2008
1342 Posts
Da Hood & Da Wood
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Sun Nov 21, 10 11:03 am |
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Here's another way to harness ocean energy for localized robotic tasks without tethering: http://liquidr.com. May be a cost-effective way to get rid of the millions of dollars worth of tethered navigation buoys that need frequent cleaning (sorry to put the CG out of that business). And as fragile as this little toy looks it's weathered some of the toughest waves in the South Pacific! (The wave power generation wing acts as ballast; I think of it as an inverse GoJoe ).
Energy is a business like any other - if there's a source of it, it'll be exploited, natural impact or not. The only way to lessen exploitation is to significantly lessen demand. Unfortunately that's not how our society works, so arguing about the efficiency of putting 'kites' into the mighty ocean is pointless, so long as the costs of damage and repair still allow profitability in the operating budget. Look at the idle egg beater windmills from the last 'energy crisis' on Pacheco Pass in California replaced by acres of new Vestas towers in eastern Oregon alongside a billion dollar budget BPA got (in the name of jobs) to rewire transmission lines to ship the new power down to California. Hood River lies between two dams on the Columbia yet pays for electricity from a coal-fired plant in Boardman... how big do you think saving the ocean factors in?
http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/SITING/power.shtml |
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