pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
forever labled as the
retired kiter & motorhead Unicorn Master
Fri Mar 19, 10 8:13 am
That sucks bro. You guys seem to have allot of beach closures based on the irresponsible actions of a minority. I guess that is the price you pay for warm water and sunshine. Are beach goers wear fleece and goretex.
Seems like you guys need some kind of mandatory registration and policing system. Never a popular option
Pepi
Since 16 Jun 2006
1831 Posts
Pure Stoke Sports
Shop Owner
I've been hearing a few stories from a shop owner buddy of mine down in Florida regarding their feeling another surge of beach closures banning kiting due to this exact sort of situation.
He says it's near impossible to control the situation due to a few locals who continue to ignore the rules and set the example for others do the same, then when they get shut down these guys tell the city to go f&*k themselves and move on to another beach where the same thing ends up happening.
Believe it or not, he's been thinking of restocking more on windsurfing gear in one of his shops due to their possibly losing more kite access at another beach.
blancoh2o
Since 15 Mar 2005
1154 Posts
Oregon
Phishy
Fri Mar 19, 10 3:22 pm
Two Summers ago during the Gorge Games a lot of those same riders were here doing the same antics right up wind of the sand bar. After several warnings from our locals it took one of to unplug a deflation valve in order for it to sink in.
I know a lot of Florida kiters. Of the ones that keep coming back here to ride, they get the rules. It seems like the sponsored riders who get the free ride are the worst when it comes to respecting our rules.
Sponsors....you need to clamp down on your team guys. It has a very negative reflection on you.
Pepi
Since 16 Jun 2006
1831 Posts
Pure Stoke Sports
Shop Owner
It seems like the sponsored riders who get the free ride are the worst when it comes to respecting our rules.
Sponsors....you need to clamp down on your team guys. It has a very negative reflection on you.
You speak the truth my brother.
A few of the CGKA board of directors were put in the compromising position of having to call up some of the sales managers for 2 or 3 different companies last year to ask them to please speak with their riders and photographers regarding the sandbar jumping.
I was one, and it was lame to have to do this. _________________ Pure Stoke Sports
Hood River, OR
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hood-River-OR/2nd-Wind-Sports/35891485558?ref=mf www.Purestokesports.com
specialk
Guest
Fri Mar 19, 10 8:55 pm
Quote:
Sponsors....you need to clamp down on your team guys. It has a very negative reflection on you.
It's not about sponsors! It's a personal choice and your very own personal integrity which is affected. I can't help but think that ultimately individuals that choose to play by their own rules, have to live with the consequences of those too! Don't think they go without them!
Sponsorship has nothing to do with it...you can be a fool, sponsored or not, right?!
Consider the mountain, leasing from the federal goverent (a public space) and the corporation who operates that public space then telling you, 'you can't hike up the ski area without the purchase of a lift ticket'. B.S. Right? Or not?!
When you begin to bring sponsors into these things, or businesses(?), you fail to see the policing and restrictions that could then potentially be brougt to our very own public spaces. i.e. We will all begin to pay fees to use our public spaces - GET IT. It's how our clocks tick!
blancoh2o
Since 15 Mar 2005
1154 Posts
Oregon
Phishy
Sat Mar 20, 10 7:21 am
SpecialK,
Your comparison of public lands and the kiteboarding launches is not adequate. If a sponsored athlete wants to go huck their self off a big cliff out in the middle of nowhere for a photo shoot....no problem in most cases (pending they follow the law). If they want to act like idiots at launches where there are other kiteboarders, swimmers, photographers, and anyone else in harms way that is when there is a problem.
Here is a little analogy for you. I drive a truck, it has a big sign on the side of it that says who I work for. If I drive like an idiot and put others in danger, do you think my employer is going to hear about it? Do you think they are going to take the blame? Most responsible employers (or sponsors) will discipline their employee. I value my job, so should a sponsored athlete. They wear the billboard for the company and are a representative of them.
How many athletes can you name that have lost sponsorship or scholarships for making bad choices while representing their employer, sponsor or school?
specialk
Guest
Sat Mar 20, 10 7:44 am
HELLO!!!
Tiger u still make millions baby!
Might I add that we have traffic laws and people continue to not adhere to them; despite the fact, that it's one of the most likely ways we end up in Trauma centers around the world!
forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
Hick
One of the incidents where Blancoh2o get's his opinion from is one pro rider in particular. He would not listen to anyone on the beach and responded with insults and naughty words. Obviously, his sponsor needed to know about it.
bwd
Since 04 Aug 2007
385 Posts
Obsessed
Sat Mar 20, 10 9:40 am
nice trolling there k,
but tiger has lost $100 million in sponsorships.
And the wife will take a $300M chunk out of him if she bails.
So there are consequences.
But sure, yeah idiots on the road cause problems too, doh.
And dipshit was on a rpm. If I recall that kevin guy was on a fuel.
If I were SS I would take those kites back tomorrow if the guy is sponsored.
And just might sue him for damaging the brand's goodwill.
Might even say screw it, no more team riders in FL until there is improvement.
Seems like >50% of the coverage that comes from FL is negative.
Big market there, but it's also the source of a national image problem. IMHO.
krazedkiter
Since 08 Jun 2009
183 Posts
Florida
Stoked
Sat Mar 20, 10 2:12 pm
bwd wrote:
nice trolling there k,
Might even say screw it, no more team riders in FL until there is improvement.
Seems like >50% of the coverage that comes from FL is negative.
Big market there, but it's also the source of a national image problem. IMHO.
I dont appreciate your remarks about Florida. You are grouping an entire state regarding two incidents involving individuals.? Your remarks are the dangerous ones. 99% of kiters in Florida, as elsewhere, are respectful kiters who follow the rules.
And didnt someone just give some examples about Gorge issues? Plus I have read about plenty on this forum. Brother, its a universal problem that doesn't discriminate with borders. We are all responsible for it. _________________ __________________________
Krazed
Chooch
Since 18 Nov 2007
1871 Posts
Wicked Pissah
Boston Tea Bagger
Sat Mar 20, 10 2:24 pm
Yeah I think that Florida gets a bad wrap because there are so many kiters on beaches mixed with the general population.
We are lucky to be in a spot where the majority of people (both locals and tourists) enjoy similar sports. Florida is not just a popular kiting destiantion...it attracts millions of people from the north east seeking warm air and water.
This type of environment is always going to be volitile for us kiters.
Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
4911 Posts
Portland
Unstrapped
Sat Mar 20, 10 3:33 pm
KrazedFloridian wrote:
And didnt someone just give some examples about Gorge issues?
all visitors from Florida - no really Florida is great cept for all the Floridians and
krazedkiter
Since 08 Jun 2009
183 Posts
Florida
Stoked
Sat Mar 20, 10 4:11 pm
Gman wrote:
KrazedFloridian wrote:
And didnt someone just give some examples about Gorge issues?
all visitors from Florida - no really Florida is great cept for all the Floridians and
Go Dolphins!
Your quite arrogant and naive if you think that there are no access or kiter rule issues in your area and that none of it is due to kiters in the state of Oregon. Your "this is an out of towners fault" mentality is one of the reasons we have issues.
In the hood, kiters and windsurfers probably drive the economy. In Florida, kiters are the bottom of the food chain.
And you apparently dont have a problem coming down and mingling with the Floridians.
Chooch
Since 18 Nov 2007
1871 Posts
Wicked Pissah
Boston Tea Bagger
Sat Mar 20, 10 4:18 pm
fa·ce·tious [fuh-see-shuhs]
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1.not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.
2.amusing; humorous.
3.lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential, amusing, or frivolous: a facetious person.
krazedkiter
Since 08 Jun 2009
183 Posts
Florida
Stoked
Sat Mar 20, 10 4:35 pm
Sorry. Its a little stressful here these days. _________________ __________________________
Krazed
Chooch
Since 18 Nov 2007
1871 Posts
Wicked Pissah
Boston Tea Bagger
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