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				Pete
			
			 
			
				  
				Since 29 Oct 2007 
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				 Mon Nov 06, 23 11:37 am    Wing Waist Leash - Wing and Board | 
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				| What is everyone using for a waist leash that will serve to tether both the wing and the board.  I am sick of my separate wrist leash and calf leash. | 
			 
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				Wind Slither
			
			 
			
				  
				Since 04 Mar 2005 
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				 Mon Nov 06, 23 1:38 pm     | 
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				So I already had a waist coil leash for my board, so now I just take the wing wrist leash and put the cuff around my waist leash in front.  
 
 
Work well now but I will need longer wing leashes when I start working on those wicked behind-the-back tacks.  
 
 
I see a lot of pro-joes going with the calf coil leash for the board and the long waist leach for the wing, but I don't want to hassle with switch the wing leash every time I switch wings and I don't want to buy 6 new wing waist leashes. 
 
 
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				TommyK
			
			 
			
				 
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				stringy
			
			 
			
				  
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				hey pete, I've been winging with the NSI minimalist harness.  I attach the wing leash to the front side, and use a reel leash on the backside.  NSI has a pretty dialed in harness setup.  they even have a contraption to secure the reel leash so it will never flop around.  the harness also works much better than a waist leash for hooking in.  by having a hook, it allows you to cruise upwind with minimal pull on your arms.  the design of the minimalist harness disperses the load across your back so I would say it's as comfy as a kite harness, but not bulky.  they make them right in Hood River.  Disclaimer, I do alot of stuff with NSI, including helping them develop a better product.
 
 
 
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				kitebot
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 20 Feb 2007 
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				 Sat Nov 11, 23 9:02 am     | 
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				| I don't anchor both my wing and board to my harness because it's a single point of failure.  If my harness rips off I still want to be attached to something floaty. | 
			 
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				Hein
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 08 Mar 2005 
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				 Wed Nov 15, 23 8:15 pm     | 
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				I agree that two separate waist bands is better redundancy.
 
 
I use the Oceanus Reel leash for board but removed their bungee and put a ~10" long spectra line with loop on my board and then clip to that. The leash is under light tension and never gets in the way while riding. On a big day riding my 40L I somehow knelt on the clip and opened it so I started taping it shut when riding that board. That has never happened with the 50L board I ride. I do intend to rework the clip by cutting off the the external lever.
 
 
I use a separate Ozone waist leash for each wing. I tie a short piece of line as a back up to the plastic buckle because I have had one break. That line probably saved me from losing my wing because I didn't notice the broken buckle until back at the beach.
 
 
All the best,
 
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