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Scriffler

Since 03 Jul 2005
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LYLE
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PostSat Sep 02, 17 11:17 pm     Reply with quote

I used to be scared of wearing a leash in the surf until I started riding a spot where I can't afford to lose my board. I use a really long leash, like 7 or 8 feet and it is pretty hard to get whipped by your board. The trick is to depower your kite as soon as you fall. This should minimize any whipping by your board. Also get a quick release one just in
Case you need to punch out.



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stevegriffith22

Since 14 May 2006
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PostSun Sep 03, 17 6:35 am    Re: Thanks/Update Reply with quote

More time strapless: I basically can't stand to ride my twintip anymore anyways so this is pretty easy. I'm on the board from 7m conditions to 15m conditions and am feeling good.


2 things......

I agree this thread is helping me out tons so please keep it coming and I too have been focused on being able to ride a board in all conditions, I find that its super easy on the body compared to a twin as well.

Thank you so much.

sg

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Matt V

Since 26 Oct 2014
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Summer- OR Coast, Winter - My van near good snow
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PostSun Sep 03, 17 7:01 am    Re: Thanks/Update Reply with quote

5walnut10 wrote:

Gybe speed: I took the time to consider my actual gybe speed since I'm regular footed. Going either way the fastest I can gybe is to simply jump and 180 my body instead of stepping forward and then back. If someone has a faster method let me know.


I do this too while strapped. It may be a holdover from strapless. When strapped, you just need to prep it by loosening the feet in the straps a bit, then jumping and making it inside of the front strap, but placing the foot in front of the back strap.

5walnut10 wrote:


....if I add in small jumps and immediately return to hard carving upon landing I learn a lot. The reason is that just as Matt V recommended in learning to jump, you end up landing with poor foot positioning from time to time. Add in forcing myself to carve away aggressively upon landing has given me the opportunity to learn how the board can and will perform when I'm out of foot position but still have to ride. In the ocean I can see it effectively buying me time to restabilize in a more opportune location.



This is the advantage of having straps, or really sticky wax, and why I went back to strapped. Learning to ride with bad foot position for long enough to correct it is essential to not being a hazard to others in the break. But to get near the performance level of strapped while strapless, you need to get back into position extremely quick. The speed is "instant" with strapped (except in the jibe), but only can be quick with strapless. This quickness should be your goal, not just riding out of position. With a funky foot position, you always give up one or more of the following, even on a small kitesurfboard - front foot pressure, rear foot pressure, or one rail pressure. Out of position, one of those controls goes away and you cannot apply a technique that requires that. If you need the control you give up in a particular out of position stance, then you will find your self looking up at the surface of the water.

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Blazeheliski

Since 30 Mar 2011
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PostMon Sep 18, 17 2:33 pm     Reply with quote

One of the easiest ways to get comfortable with the coast is to do a downwinder. Between Fort Stevens and Sunset Beach being the most popular. With a downwinder, it is much easier to pick and choose your waves if you are not worrying about staying upwind. You can stay in close to shore for an extra layer of safety. As you get more comfortable - you can start testing the outer break.

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5walnut10

Since 01 Aug 2014
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PostMon Oct 02, 17 8:28 am     Reply with quote

I'm about to hit my 30th day strapless and am feeling pretty solid from following advice on this thread. I've got 2 weeks booked in Tulum, Mexico this November and that will be my actual intro to wave riding. At this point I feel confident that I'll have success out there, just not sure exactly what it will look like!

Something I thought about yesterday that taps into a little more of training theory is this: What % of time are you spending trying new things vs trying to solidify established skills and just have fun? Obviously benefits in both.

For me at least, 2 continuous hours of riding as aggressive as possible and constantly trying new things is about my max. By the end of that time frame I'm starting to dog and thinking about shore.

I ask because I don't feel like I see many intermediate riders out there. I see either people mowing the lawn strapless or going big strapless, I never see someone trying a new tack/jibe 50 times in a session. Never see people trying and failing at landing aerials over and over again.

I'm having a blast, and am wondering, for those who have made it through to a more advanced level of strapless riding: Did you spend many a day getting thrashed trying to progress quickly? Or did you accrue your skills more slowly over several years?

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Slappysan

Since 13 Jun 2012
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PostMon Oct 02, 17 10:12 am     Reply with quote

I consider myself an intermediate strapless rider and this is the way I approach things.

1) if the waves are good they are the focus, since I only kite onshore waves that means 60% of the time riding back upwind, 30% of the time ripping turns on waves, 10% of the time doing airs during my way back up wind. (you might consider that 60% mowing the lawn but it's work you have to put in to get to rip those turns)

2) if the wave/wind angle is good then the focus is strapless airs, wave/wind angle makes a huge difference to how big you can go strapless. in the right conditions I can do 15-20 foot airs, in average conditions more like 5-10 foot.

3) otherwise mix it up between doing laps upwind then ripping turns down and trick progression. even if the waves suck it's still great fun.

4) also mix in some more mellow stuff like working on your duck tacks, carve 180 to ride backwards and handstand backrolls.

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