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Lurk
Since 04 Apr 2009
355 Posts
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 Wed Oct 02, 13 11:50 am Begging for SS 2012 RALLY Design. |
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I have heard changes were made in 2013-14 model years to satisfy European market complaints of instability, but really for the rider with a weight around 175 and wants a dedicated kick ass wave kite, please consider bringing them back.
Mine are already showing age and I shudder to think of going back to RPM's for the waves, as good as they are...
Not to mention its damn near impossible to find new OR used 2012 Rallys in 6- 10-12m sizes...
This kite is a classic and deserves to be back on the market. |
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Justsmile
Since 20 Jul 2009
1523 Posts
Not Portland
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| Wed Oct 02, 13 12:11 pm |
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| I have a 2012 14 that is one of the best big kites so far. Quick for as big and stable enough for me at 210 lbs. I have the 7 and 10 2013 and love them so far. Nice mix of the old and new aspects!! |
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Lurk
Since 04 Apr 2009
355 Posts
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| Wed Oct 02, 13 2:48 pm |
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Agreed the 2014 14m is very good LW kite. The 12m would be my choice for a replacement of my 14m!
Graphics are the best yet, for sure.
The 10, 12 and 14 have significantly more power than the size would indicate, making for huge lofty jumps. I was surprised how fast I was overpowered on the 10.
That said the still lack the speed and feel of the 2012. Personal taste... I still like my old Eclipse thruster for its turning speed.
I like a light, fast wave kite, and the 2012's are the best I have tried. |
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Windstoked
Since 21 May 2013
43 Posts
Norcal
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| Wed Oct 02, 13 7:17 pm |
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| Unless you're boosting hard or doing kite loops, the 2012 Rally is pretty good. The wingtip flex doesn't seem too bad as long as you don't look at the kite. |
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toddjb
Since 16 Oct 2007
271 Posts
MD
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| Wed Oct 02, 13 8:18 pm |
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| Windstoked wrote: | | Unless you're boosting hard or doing kite loops, the 2012 Rally is pretty good. The wingtip flex doesn't seem too bad as long as you don't look at the kite. |
Yeah, I think it was a situation where the 70% of owners who loved the kite, were not nearly as loud as the 10% who complained about wingtip stability. (that other 20% doesn't care either way.)
So, since complaints carry more weight than accolades, they had to redesign to avoid a bad reputation. That 2012 14M was the best large kite I've ever flown. I didn't mind lightwind days...because I never felt like I owned a lightwind kite! |
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knotwindy
Since 25 Sep 2011
598 Posts
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| Wed Oct 02, 13 9:18 pm |
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seems to me that if you want the feel f the 2012 14m
get a 2014 12m and put the rear lines on the back attachment points and it will be right there, if that is not close enough get the longer bar and it will pivot turn as well with the light bar pressure
and still make a better carving turn and loop
IMO YMMV |
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toddjb
Since 16 Oct 2007
271 Posts
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| Thu Oct 03, 13 6:49 am |
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| knotwindy wrote: | seems to me that if you want the feel f the 2012 14m
get a 2014 12m and put the rear lines on the back attachment points and it will be right there, if that is not close enough get the longer bar and it will pivot turn as well with the light bar pressure
and still make a better carving turn and loop
IMO YMMV |
Agreed, that's the way to go.
Order the new 12M with the 23"x27M bar.
The new 14M is a great LW kite, but is not your wave solution.
The new 12M works fine. |
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Lurk
Since 04 Apr 2009
355 Posts
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| Thu Oct 03, 13 11:40 am |
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The 2012s don't unhook or kiteloop well. Get the RPM for all around abilities...That's just a fact. But as a pure wave kite they simply have the best drifting and response I have ever felt.
Maybe make them again as a wave specific kite like the Cab Drifter... |
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lewmt
Since 04 Aug 2010
182 Posts
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| Fri Oct 04, 13 5:35 am |
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I know there's a brand vs brand taboo here but since you're talking about a kite that no longer exists maybe I'm not too far over the barrier....apologies if I am.
You may want to demo a 2013 Catalyst if you can. I only have a 14M but it reminds me a lot of the 2012 Rally which I had before. Drifty & quick turning. No wing flutter under load. I haven't tried any other kites that were as similar. |
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Windstoked
Since 21 May 2013
43 Posts
Norcal
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| Fri Oct 04, 13 6:57 pm |
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| I was really lit up on my new 10m 2014 Rally today in 25-35 mph winds, and it is much more responsive than my 2012 10m Rally, allowing much higher boosting. I don't understand these reviews saying the 2014 turns slower, as it loops on a dime. |
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Rorke
Since 23 Oct 2009
22 Posts
Traverse City, MI
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| Sat Oct 05, 13 9:01 am |
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The 2012's are my favorite surf kite.
Last year, I paid more for my 2012 6m/8m/10m Rally's than I would have for the same in 2013.
I am 190. 6'5" wide surfboard.
Never has folded up or buckled. Loops tight or arcs. Powered or not.
It does recover from an over extended drift, or intentional backstall, on command.
Love it.
My 2013 12m is my lightwind kite. My 15m Rev isn't that much better, on the water anyway; snow might be different.
I am going to have the kite modified at a local sail loft here.
Why keep it instead of replace? Why not?
I'll post the results.
Bob, at Kiteriders LLC in Madison, WI knew how special the kite was. He bought a bunch. Not sure what is left. No 10m for sure though. One of his riders was ogling mine last Tuesday. |
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
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Camas
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| Sat Oct 05, 13 6:43 pm |
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I have a 2012 10m Rally with 2 sessions on it and a brand new unused 2012 bar...  I'm open to offers. |
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stu5
Since 09 Mar 2009
92 Posts
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| Sun Oct 06, 13 7:23 am |
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| Nak, I have an unused 2012 8m Rally kite/bar. How about a trade for your slightly used 10m kite/bar, plus some cash? |
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jperry
Since 07 Nov 2008
188 Posts
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| Wed Oct 09, 13 10:50 am |
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| Windance has a 10m kite complete for $999 |
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Lurk
Since 04 Apr 2009
355 Posts
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| Wed Oct 09, 13 11:03 am |
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| Thanks for the info on the 10m at windance. |
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gorgeperformance
Since 30 Nov 2010
67 Posts
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| Thu Oct 10, 13 3:06 pm |
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| I have a new in the box 2012 9 and 10 @ $999 complete. Yes each. |
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Justsmile
Since 20 Jul 2009
1523 Posts
Not Portland
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| Thu Oct 10, 13 3:43 pm |
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2 models old. Better make better deals than that or just keep an eye out on here and you will pay what you should. Dealers get 2013 stuff cheaper than he is retailing it to us. This is what happens when u r the only shop in p town.
This is a site to hook a brotha up. Charge Industry prices and Along with that take your reply to the industry section!! |
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