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Dwarfcraft strap inserts metric or imperial?

 
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Slappysan

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PostWed Dec 19, 18 11:32 am    Dwarfcraft strap inserts metric or imperial? Reply with quote

Looking to use the back strap insert to attach a leash loop, are Slingshot strap insert screws metric or imperial threaded?

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ldhr

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PostWed Dec 19, 18 2:11 pm     Reply with quote

M6x23 self-tapping screw.
https://www.slingshotsports.com/Foot-Hook-Hardware

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Slappysan

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PostWed Dec 19, 18 3:21 pm     Reply with quote

Interesting, it's not actually a bolt at all, they just cut the tip off a metric screw.

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PostWed Dec 19, 18 3:24 pm     Reply with quote

Yeah - SS undersizes the hole and the screw self taps when you put it in. it's bomber and doesn't come loose.

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chrissmack

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PostWed Dec 19, 18 9:17 pm    leash Reply with quote

just curious, why a leash on a foil board?

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jasonq

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PostWed Dec 19, 18 10:51 pm     Reply with quote

humm, that sure does not look like an M6 thread, it looks like a #12AB to me (ski bindings)

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PostThu Dec 20, 18 6:58 am    Re: leash Reply with quote

chrissmack wrote:
just curious, why a leash on a foil board?


Agreed. But I see foilers who have a leash attachment, not for the riding but something to hook on to post-crash so the board never leaves while you struggle with a downed kite. I tried it.... only added to my confusion and tangles.

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Slappysan

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PostThu Dec 20, 18 11:32 am    Re: leash Reply with quote

jasonq wrote:
humm, that sure does not look like an M6 thread, it looks like a #12AB to me (ski bindings)


Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It's because it's not a M6 bolt thread like we're used to, it's a M6 screw thread, it just looks like a bolt because they cut the tip off.

wylieflyote wrote:
chrissmack wrote:
just curious, why a leash on a foil board?


Agreed. But I see foilers who have a leash attachment, not for the riding but something to hook on to post-crash so the board never leaves while you struggle with a downed kite.


Mostly for this reason.

I'm often foiling in 6-8 knots and when my kite goes down in those conditions the first thing I do is leash up my board.

I'm also going to try prone paddle foiling at some point and want a leash.

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PostFri Dec 21, 18 9:00 am     Reply with quote

ldhr wrote:
Yeah - SS undersizes the hole and the screw self taps when you put it in. it's bomber and doesn't come loose.


I'm not a fan of this. I use M6 bolts--or whatever the insert thread is-- and purple loctite. The self threading screw can work well in brass inserts, but can cause problems in SS inserts. SS against SS with a self tapping screw can result in galling--which will freeze the screw in the insert permanently. Moses does this same thing in their boards; makes no sense to me. Not a big deal though. A trip to the hardware store for the proper bolts and some loctite fixes all. (Just don't use Red loctite! Shocked Very Happy )

I've also seen a lot of kiteboarding gear with blue loctite pre-applied. Blue is good too, but can be a bit too strong sometimes. (Think too many threads coated or a phillips head.) In an application where I can't apply heat to break the bond, I like the purple (low strength) loctite. A lot of people make the mistake of applying the purple without primer. Unlike the blue (loctite 243), the purple (Loctite 222) requires a primer. The loctite has the added benefit of preventing galling and sealing the joint against corrosion.

If you do use the self tapping screws into an insert, use grease to help the screw cut the thread and prevent galling.

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