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My New 1 Board Quiver (WaveBandit Performer 4-10)

 
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Slappysan

Since 13 Jun 2012
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PostWed Nov 08, 17 10:28 am    My New 1 Board Quiver (WaveBandit Performer 4-10) Reply with quote

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Very interested in your post about using inexpensive small softboards for kiting. I haven't been able to find much info about using them to kite with. Any more info you can share as PM or forum review. Are you using the wave bandit in the gorge or at the coast? How is it for getting upwind? How is it for actually riding waves? Why do you like it better than your kite surfboards? I tried kiting with a bigger soft board a few years ago and it was pretty awful, way too much volume and wouldn't turn.


I picked up a WaveBandit Performer 4-10 this summer for my 10 year old son to learn to surf on. At $150 they are a steal.

After watching Ben Gravy rip on it I was of course also interested in using it for myself behind the boat and behind a kite, I don't think I have the paddle skills to prone it. I'm not sure how heavy Ben is, I'd guess near the 160 lbs mark. I am 5'10" 160 lbs.

First go was at the Bend White Water Park. This thing is money on the standing wave, loves to turn. Everyone who I let give it a try there loved it too. Session report.

Next outing was behind the boat and this thing delivered. It's a bit sluggish but generates speed when you slash with it. Very fun to carve and very forgiving. Session report. Video.

Since then I have started kiting with it and quite honestly I just don't want to ride any of my other boards anymore.

- It's feather light at 5.6 lbs and I love light boards.
- Being so light it works for strapless airs in lighter winds
- It loves to turn, I can do layback recoveries on this thing
- A true surfboard that performs in small waves
- Always feels under control
- Soft on my feet (I have feet issues)
- Easy on my knees (I have knee issues)
- I land tricks on this thing that I would never land on my epoxy boards
- Goes upwind well
- I can let it wash up on the rocks if I need to focus on landing my kite
- I can ride it over the sand bars without worry about grounding
- No worries travel board that fits in the RE Tactical Trolly (amazing bag btw) with room to spare.
- $150 unbeatable value.

I've since bought a second board to have on deck for when I break the first one. So far it's holding up well though. Lots of heel dents but no signs of structural damage.

It does take a bit to get used to the extra volume though, but that extra volume is nice to have when you are underpowered. Even though it's only 4'10" x 19" I can still make this board work in 15 knots with my 9m.

1st kite report.

2nd kite report.

My other boards are:
- Cab Secret Weapon 5-2
- OR Jester
- Exile full carbon finless skim
- Shinnster
- Slingshot SP 5-0

The only one it doesn't really replace is my finless skim, but you know, I haven't tried it with the fins out yet so maybe it could.

The board does really well in chopy crap conditions like we get in Squamish as well as proper waves.

My only concern is that in 30+ knots if the board gets away from me I wont be able to catch up to it. I always bury the nose in sand when on the beach dealing with my kite as this thing is so light it can blow away super easy.

I will probably pick up a Odysea Stump 5-0 to see how it works in the future. It's much more expensive and I'm worried that it will be too heavy for kiting but it would be nice to have a 1 board travel quiver that I could paddle surf too.

Does anyone know the weight of Odysea Stump 5-0?

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pauls

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PostWed Nov 08, 17 11:18 am     Reply with quote

Thanks Slappy for posting all this info. Now I'm going to have get one of these too try. I'm about 15lbs heavier than you so will see what that does to performance. I have lots of joint pain too the point where soft ride is way more important to me than crisp performance.

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toddjb

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PostWed Nov 08, 17 11:42 am     Reply with quote

That's pretty cool. Certainly peeks my curiosity to try it out.

Do you have to put anything on it for stickage? I notice they make a softboard wax, but I hate dealing with wax...

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Slappysan

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PostWed Nov 08, 17 12:33 pm     Reply with quote

All the Catch Surf / Wave Bandit line require normal surf wax. I wax it up before every session as I find that it sheds the wax more than a traditional surfboard.

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scottnorby

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PostFri Nov 10, 17 8:44 am     Reply with quote

Glad to see this post.
Soft board technology has come a long way.
I was working with a team to make the Catch Surf boards back in 2006 and they are a great board but they do have their disadvantages.
No real fins.....no real solid structure and they do eventually warp.
But the experience of riding on a board that is softer is unique. All the advantages you mentioned are true. A softer board is more animate and feels like it is more 'alive'.

We have licensed technology to make boards which are similar in that they feel soft (soft skin stretched over epoxy top and bottom) but our boards can be 100% custom or cut from a CAD file that you provide (or we or a shaper design with you)
True high performance soft boards which are custom and have been tested on the North Shore for well over 10 years now.
Futures fins.
EPS and S glass under the skin.
Rails have an industrial strength softer foam just under the skin.

After riding one it is very hard to go back to an exoskeleton board which can knock you out cold....Kelly Slater said was the closest he was to death in the water when his board knocked him out in France.

Sending this one to James Ropner next week -- hoping to get some good feedback.
The traction on the board is licensed by Surfco of Hawaii. Wax Mat traction.

And yes that is Mike Hynson of the original Endless Summer movie---we are talking to him about making a Hynson model next year.


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scottnorby

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PostSat Nov 11, 17 1:19 pm     Reply with quote

On an intersting side note.....the exoskeleton (glass over foam) was invented by Bob Simmons. Any ocean surfer knows of Bob. But does everyone know that he is known to have died to to a blow to his head by his own board?

Robert Wilson Simmons, age 35 -- the "Father of the Modern Surfboard" -- died surfing on September 26, 1954. How he died, exactly is unknown. Greg Noll guessed that Simmons "Got slapped on the head by his own board and that was it."
According to Greg Noll, it wasn't that big a day -- certainly not beyond Simmons' skills. "The irony of it is that it was only a six-or-eight-foot day," wrote Noll. "That's the way it always goes. For the most part, it's not the big waves that get a guy. It's always some quirky thing."


And...
From emergency room data near a popular surf spot.

350 admissions to emergency departments for surf-related accidents were recorded.
65% of surfers injured were experienced surfers and 35% were beginners (44% of whom were injured during a surfing lesson).
59% of accidents occurred when the surfer made contact with his own board.

All this technology and 'fashion' gets in the way of function.

We have our aim set to change all that.

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knotwindy

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PostSat Nov 11, 17 6:50 pm     Reply with quote

Link? Prices? Where/how? Question

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PostMon Nov 13, 17 9:59 am     Reply with quote

The link is in the first post. 149.99 a board for the 410. Only one color left /mint til the end of November then a new shipment of all the colors you will wants arrives in time for Christmas !
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scottnorby

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PostMon Nov 13, 17 10:00 am     Reply with quote

sorry.
Not trying to hijack his thread.
Drop me an email at cushsurfboards@gmail.com and I will send you specs.

and www.silencersurfboards.com is our old site.

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Slappysan

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PostMon Nov 13, 17 9:30 pm     Reply with quote

I had the Wave Bandit Performer 4-10 out in 40 knots today and it performed stellar as usual. My worry about the board getting away from me downwind after falls turned out to be fine. It flies a bit easier than my epoxy boards but still catches the water and rests for 2-4 sec between wave troughs.

Also landed flat and hard twice from 15 feet and no sign of buckling still.

Also while anything will stick to your feet in 40 knots I found that the Wave Bandit would stick well enough to allow me to air off of onshore wind waves and land back on the face of the wave. Until now I had always had to air over the wave and land well on the other side.

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