Wed Jun 10, 15 4:56 pmCGKA - Dealing with Kiters showing off near beach/kids
So this is a difficult one to confront, but it's starting to look like this summer will be delivering us some never-before-seen lowest of low water levels making our launches very large in regards to landscape, but very small in regards to water space for launching and landing at the beaches.
Now, it should be pointed out that we have no authority to arrest or remove persons showing disregard for others safety or showing no concern for how their actions may affect the current access of our kiting public. But that is not to say that if things go too far with a situation that the police will not step in during circumstances of utter stupidity.
On to the question at hand :
If push came to shove and we started to see a continued build up of violators at the Event Site, would it be of value to begin posting pictures of consistent violators on NWKite so as to give people some incentive to behave properly, or would we be going too far with this?f
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knotwindy
Since 25 Sep 2011
615 Posts
Addicted
Wed Jun 10, 15 6:30 pm
Sure, post pictures, that is the least offensive solution. Next is to pop kites or cut bridles!?! Whether they are arrogant or oblivious, education seems to be of little use....
user124
Since 02 Aug 2012
391 Posts
Portland
Obsessed
Wed Jun 10, 15 7:15 pm
Could we post the pictures with "shaming" signs/captions, like the pet shaming in the newspaper?
Maybe we could also post pictures of leash-less dogs at the event site
JeffT
Since 07 Jul 2012
238 Posts
Deep Southern Portland
Stoked
Wed Jun 10, 15 7:52 pm
I suggest creating a new topic titled 'daily dumbass' and post the pics there _________________ Jeff
wood
Since 21 Jan 2013
65 Posts
Wed Jun 10, 15 8:01 pmKITERS IN CLOSE AT THE EVENT SITE
It is plan and simple no kiting inside the white buoys. If you see swimmers on the outside of the buoys. Just give them the right away-slowdown!
D-Krep It Kiter
Since 18 Jul 2011
417 Posts
Obsessed
Wed Jun 10, 15 8:14 pmRe: CGKA - Dealing with Kiters showing off near beach/kids
CGKA wrote:
And to those of you whom have recommended the paintballgun solution, yes, this would be effective (and a somewhat of a guilty pleasure), but likely not a good idea
BRING IT!!!
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Makani
Since 19 Aug 2014
15 Posts
Wed Jun 10, 15 8:22 pm
Oh yeah, I've been ready for over a year now....
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hilton
Since 15 Aug 2008
801 Posts
Opinionated
Thu Jun 11, 15 6:04 amRe: KITERS IN CLOSE AT THE EVENT SITE
wood wrote:
It is plain and simple, no kiting inside the white buoys.
I thought the port had established a "no wake zone" right in front of the Event Site (marked by the white buoys) so that they could legally enforce the rule. It is also meant to apply to high speed windsurfers jibing on the inside. Perhaps people just need a reminder, stay outside the white buoys unless you are launching or landing (when allowed).
J.P.
Since 10 Mar 2005
638 Posts
Addicted
Thu Jun 11, 15 7:10 amRe: CGKA - Dealing with Kiters showing off near beach/kids
CGKA wrote:
So this is a difficult one to confront, but it's starting to look like this summer will be delivering us some never-before-seen lowest of low water levels making our launches very large in regards to landscape, but very small in regards to water space for launching and landing at the beaches.
On to the question at hand :
If push came to shove and we started to see a continued build up of violators at the Event Site, would it be of value to begin posting pictures of consistent violators on NWKite so as to give people some incentive to behave properly, or would we be going too far with this?f
And to those of you whom have recommended the paintballgun solution, yes, this would be effective (and a somewhat of a guilty pleasure), but likely not a good idea
Dear CGKA,
Thank you for being the association with the stomach fortunate to confront and work these issues.
While this is a difficult subject, it does not go away by lack of discussion, which is the practice up North when on the water rider issues arise.
It is my sincere hope, that these repeated behaviors will rub off on the "association" up North!
To all of those part of the CGKA BOD, thank you for making kiting better a experience through your good work and donation of your personal time!!!!
Good winds to you!!!
John
ps. I've advocated the Paint ball solution more than once since starting the sport in the summer 1999. _________________ John
ldhr
Since 21 Jul 2009
1489 Posts
Hood River
XTreme Poster
Thu Jun 11, 15 7:44 am
I personally know a few of the offenders.
I've even spoke to them and asked that they refrain from kiting so close to the beach and swimmers. I emphasized that they are potentially jeopardizing our access if they have an accident.
They don't care and they continue to kite close to the beach and even kite into the basin where people cross from the Event Site onto the sandbar. They think their kiting ability puts them above the rules.
They also think it's the swimmers fault and that the swimmers should not be there at the "kite" beach.
I believe peer pressure is the only way to stop them - we should start posting pictures here on NWKITE of those that are truly reckless.
wylieflyote
Since 30 Jun 2006
1648 Posts
Puget Sound & Wa. Coast
XTreme Poster
Thu Jun 11, 15 7:50 am
ldhr wrote:
They also think it's "kite" beach.
Did you check their hands for signs of tree pitch? Sounds like the type. _________________ CGKA Member
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jaksavage
Since 02 Dec 2009
216 Posts
hood river
Stoked
Thu Jun 11, 15 7:51 amBad Behavior
Yes the Port placed legal no wake zone buoys attempting to mark a slow speed area. We can call the sheriff and he could come down from where ever he is at the time, think Lost Lake, get in his boat drive around the sandbar to the Event site where...guess what, no violator would be found. A complete waste of his time and our tax dollars.
Most of the rules in our society rely on compliant citizens. We hoped by marking the area a slow zone that we would have respectful users.
A few people are taking advantage and causing conflict among user groups.
How about a clothes line 20 feet off the water from the west jetty to the first buoy?
Call it a kite excluder.
Of course I am kidding, we can not do that...but it is a good idea.
Have fun everybody and lets all play nice in the sand box.
Rich
_________________ My wife kites more than me.
J.P.
Since 10 Mar 2005
638 Posts
Addicted
Thu Jun 11, 15 9:14 am
ldhr wrote:
I believe peer pressure is the only way to stop them - we should start posting pictures here on NWKITE of those that are truly reckless.
I completely agree!
I believe your suggested solution utilizes these people’s Narcissistic tendencies and will help motivate them to bring a positive change to their actions.
ldhr
Since 21 Jul 2009
1489 Posts
Hood River
XTreme Poster
Thu Jun 11, 15 9:28 am
Now that everyone has to walk across the water to launch off the sandbar.... how about a small sign right before the crossing that reminds the kiters - "NO KITING INSIDE THE WHITE BUOYS" ?
I respect the fact that we don't want to "litter" the event site with signage and overwhelm kiters with rules and regulations.... but it's actually quite easy to miss the signs that are posted now.
There's so much visual stimulation it's hard to focus on the signs.
stringy
Since 23 Jun 2006
1734 Posts
vancouver
XTreme Poster
Thu Jun 11, 15 10:04 am
J.P. wrote:
ldhr wrote:
I believe peer pressure is the only way to stop them - we should start posting pictures here on NWKITE of those that are truly reckless.
I completely agree!
I believe your suggested solution utilizes these people’s Narcissistic tendencies and will help motivate them to bring a positive change to their actions.
John
actually, part of the reason for kiting in close might be due to they want their picture taken. photographers actually encourage kiters to come in close. don't go out to the rock jetty point at the event site and take pictures. those damn cameramen! _________________ www.jimstringfellow.com
Sasquatch
Since 09 Mar 2005
2102 Posts
PNW
Bigfoot
Thu Jun 11, 15 10:46 amBeat Down
Seems like surfers have had similar problems. . .maybe take a lesson from them;-)
Got to watch the entire thing. especially minute 4:43
actually, part of the reason for kiting in close might be due to they want their picture taken. photographers actually encourage kiters to come in close. don't go out to the rock jetty point at the event site and take pictures. those damn cameramen!
perhaps a very small percentage...
IMHO, there is no need for you or anyone other cameraman to "jump on this gernade"!
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