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cgka

Since 18 Jul 2006
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PostWed Jun 10, 15 4:56 pm    CGKA - Dealing with Kiters showing off near beach/kids Reply with quote

So this is a difficult one to confront, but it's starting to look like this summer will be delivering us some never-before-seen lowest of low water levels making our launches very large in regards to landscape, but very small in regards to water space for launching and landing at the beaches.

Now, it should be pointed out that we have no authority to arrest or remove persons showing disregard for others safety or showing no concern for how their actions may affect the current access of our kiting public. But that is not to say that if things go too far with a situation that the police will not step in during circumstances of utter stupidity.

On to the question at hand :
If push came to shove and we started to see a continued build up of violators at the Event Site, would it be of value to begin posting pictures of consistent violators on NWKite so as to give people some incentive to behave properly, or would we be going too far with this?f

And to those of you whom have recommended the paintballgun solution, yes, this would be effective (and a somewhat of a guilty pleasure), but likely not a good idea Wink

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knotwindy

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PostWed Jun 10, 15 6:30 pm     Reply with quote

Sure, post pictures, that is the least offensive solution. Next is to pop kites or cut bridles!?! Whether they are arrogant or oblivious, education seems to be of little use....

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user124

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PostWed Jun 10, 15 7:15 pm     Reply with quote

Could we post the pictures with "shaming" signs/captions, like the pet shaming in the newspaper?

http://www.oregonlive.com/pets/index.ssf/2015/03/naughty_pets_hall_of_shame_sen.html

Maybe we could also post pictures of leash-less dogs at the event site Wink

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JeffT

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PostWed Jun 10, 15 7:52 pm     Reply with quote

I suggest creating a new topic titled 'daily dumbass' and post the pics there Wink
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wood

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PostWed Jun 10, 15 8:01 pm    KITERS IN CLOSE AT THE EVENT SITE Reply with quote

It is plan and simple no kiting inside the white buoys. If you see swimmers on the outside of the buoys. Just give them the right away-slowdown!

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D-Krep It Kiter

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PostWed Jun 10, 15 8:14 pm    Re: CGKA - Dealing with Kiters showing off near beach/kids Reply with quote

CGKA wrote:

And to those of you whom have recommended the paintballgun solution, yes, this would be effective (and a somewhat of a guilty pleasure), but likely not a good idea Wink


BRING IT!!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil


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PostWed Jun 10, 15 8:22 pm     Reply with quote

Oh yeah, I've been ready for over a year now....

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hilton

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PostThu Jun 11, 15 6:04 am    Re: KITERS IN CLOSE AT THE EVENT SITE Reply with quote

wood wrote:
It is plain and simple, no kiting inside the white buoys.


I thought the port had established a "no wake zone" right in front of the Event Site (marked by the white buoys) so that they could legally enforce the rule. It is also meant to apply to high speed windsurfers jibing on the inside. Perhaps people just need a reminder, stay outside the white buoys unless you are launching or landing (when allowed).

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J.P.

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PostThu Jun 11, 15 7:10 am    Re: CGKA - Dealing with Kiters showing off near beach/kids Reply with quote

CGKA wrote:
So this is a difficult one to confront, but it's starting to look like this summer will be delivering us some never-before-seen lowest of low water levels making our launches very large in regards to landscape, but very small in regards to water space for launching and landing at the beaches.

On to the question at hand :
If push came to shove and we started to see a continued build up of violators at the Event Site, would it be of value to begin posting pictures of consistent violators on NWKite so as to give people some incentive to behave properly, or would we be going too far with this?f

And to those of you whom have recommended the paintballgun solution, yes, this would be effective (and a somewhat of a guilty pleasure), but likely not a good idea Wink


Dear CGKA,

Thank you for being the association with the stomach fortunate to confront and work these issues.
While this is a difficult subject, it does not go away by lack of discussion, which is the practice up North when on the water rider issues arise.

It is my sincere hope, that these repeated behaviors will rub off on the "association" up North!
To all of those part of the CGKA BOD, thank you for making kiting better a experience through your good work and donation of your personal time!!!!

Good winds to you!!!

John

ps. I've advocated the Paint ball solution more than once since starting the sport in the summer 1999. Very Happy

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ldhr

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PostThu Jun 11, 15 7:44 am     Reply with quote

I personally know a few of the offenders.
I've even spoke to them and asked that they refrain from kiting so close to the beach and swimmers. I emphasized that they are potentially jeopardizing our access if they have an accident.

They don't care and they continue to kite close to the beach and even kite into the basin where people cross from the Event Site onto the sandbar. They think their kiting ability puts them above the rules.

They also think it's the swimmers fault and that the swimmers should not be there at the "kite" beach.

I believe peer pressure is the only way to stop them - we should start posting pictures here on NWKITE of those that are truly reckless.

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wylieflyote

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PostThu Jun 11, 15 7:50 am     Reply with quote

ldhr wrote:
They also think it's "kite" beach.


Did you check their hands for signs of tree pitch? Sounds like the type.

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jaksavage

Since 02 Dec 2009
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PostThu Jun 11, 15 7:51 am    Bad Behavior Reply with quote

Yes the Port placed legal no wake zone buoys attempting to mark a slow speed area. We can call the sheriff and he could come down from where ever he is at the time, think Lost Lake, get in his boat drive around the sandbar to the Event site where...guess what, no violator would be found. A complete waste of his time and our tax dollars.

Most of the rules in our society rely on compliant citizens. We hoped by marking the area a slow zone that we would have respectful users.

A few people are taking advantage and causing conflict among user groups.


How about a clothes line 20 feet off the water from the west jetty to the first buoy?
Call it a kite excluder.
Of course I am kidding, we can not do that...but it is a good idea.

Have fun everybody and lets all play nice in the sand box.

Rich

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J.P.

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PostThu Jun 11, 15 9:14 am     Reply with quote

ldhr wrote:


I believe peer pressure is the only way to stop them - we should start posting pictures here on NWKITE of those that are truly reckless.


I completely agree!
I believe your suggested solution utilizes these people’s Narcissistic tendencies and will help motivate them to bring a positive change to their actions.

John

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ldhr

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PostThu Jun 11, 15 9:28 am     Reply with quote

Now that everyone has to walk across the water to launch off the sandbar.... how about a small sign right before the crossing that reminds the kiters - "NO KITING INSIDE THE WHITE BUOYS" ?

I respect the fact that we don't want to "litter" the event site with signage and overwhelm kiters with rules and regulations.... but it's actually quite easy to miss the signs that are posted now.

There's so much visual stimulation it's hard to focus on the signs. Laughing

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stringy

Since 23 Jun 2006
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PostThu Jun 11, 15 10:04 am     Reply with quote

J.P. wrote:
ldhr wrote:


I believe peer pressure is the only way to stop them - we should start posting pictures here on NWKITE of those that are truly reckless.


I completely agree!
I believe your suggested solution utilizes these people’s Narcissistic tendencies and will help motivate them to bring a positive change to their actions.

John


actually, part of the reason for kiting in close might be due to they want their picture taken. photographers actually encourage kiters to come in close. don't go out to the rock jetty point at the event site and take pictures. those damn cameramen!

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Sasquatch

Since 09 Mar 2005
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PostThu Jun 11, 15 10:46 am    Beat Down Reply with quote

Seems like surfers have had similar problems. . .maybe take a lesson from them;-)

Got to watch the entire thing. especially minute 4:43

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/9UPs0B/www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZpOdTMPUtQ/

Perhaps the Hood River port can employ KAINOA from the North Shore?

The Crowd Bar/Event Site/spit has always had its share of wankers who do what they want and don't use common sense or follow the rules.

http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-485.html&highlight=[url]

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J.P.

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PostThu Jun 11, 15 12:03 pm     Reply with quote

stringy wrote:

actually, part of the reason for kiting in close might be due to they want their picture taken. photographers actually encourage kiters to come in close. don't go out to the rock jetty point at the event site and take pictures. those damn cameramen!


perhaps a very small percentage...
IMHO, there is no need for you or anyone other cameraman to "jump on this gernade"!


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